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Old 08-23-2009, 08:38 AM   #99
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Originally Posted by fhomess View Post
The issues people are seeing with ratings are due to the fact that the game now combines several internal ratings to determine the displayed ratings. I wasn't aware of this when I converted the OOTP9 version of these utils to OOTPX. If you review the threads in this forum for neags' dev tracker and Getch's OOTP OU, you'll see that they have the same problems.
Whatever the reason may be, the effect in the draft utility is alarming.

Looking at the a few of the top pitchers in the current Federal Baseball League draft:
Peyton Moore:
Game says potential of 9 stuff, 6 movement, 8 control
Utility says potential of 9 stuff, 8 movement, 4 control

Travis Carroll:
Games says 6-4-8
Utility says 6-8-2

Tom Larson:
Games says 4-7-5
Utility says 4-5-6

1) The numbers are far enough off that I am almost suspecting the columns are mislabeled in the utility. (In game, movement is 2nd; in the utility control is 2nd. Is that just a labeling error?)

2) Assuming for a moment that that is the case, this still makes discrepancies in movement odd. Travis Carroll has only a 45% gb%. So if the data dump is giving you his movement, setting aside a bonus for his gb%, this makes no sense. No way that 45% gb% is a bonus of 2 to movement. Thus, I am suspecting a problem with the game.

Ever since X came out, I have had a sense that when it came to pitcher ratings, what you see is not what you get. Given that Markus is not sharing his formulas, it would be the kind of bug that could go unnoticed for quite a while.

In my mind, it is suggestive of a problem in movement ratings that stuff ratings are coming through fine in the utility, even though they are supposedly the more complex rating, including both velocity and a bunch of pitch ratings. (Relievers do have a discrepancy in their stuff ratings, but it is consistent -- rated lower, so what you see in the utility is every pitcher including the relievers being rated as starters.)
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