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VanillaGorilla · 08-19-2013, 11:01 PM

Which White? Which Howard?? Well, we know which Carlton....

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Bill D White was selected by the Angels with the 9th pick in the 2049 draft.

He exploded onto the scene by batting .358 (201 hits) with 38 HR and 118 RBI. He scored 107 times with an OBP of .409 and a slg% of .651 to give him a npa OPS+ of 168. These numbers, along with a Gold Glove, were good enough to crown him Rookie of the Year. His slash line figures would all stand as career bests.

White had a career slash line of 300/354/504. That tells you that he obviously had multiple .300 seasons...he did...eight. Twice he collected 200 hits in a season, also.

He wound up with 2695 hits in his career (27th, one spot behind Tony Perez). 556 of those were doubles (21st, two more than Hank Aaron) and 64 were triples (52nd). He hit 386 HR.

When White retired following the 2069 season he had appeared in 3 All Star games and had won 2 Gold Gloves. He enters the HOF 12 days after his 49th birthday. He played slightly more often in the OF than at 1B. He enters as a center fielder.

Black Ink: 5 (1)
Gray InK: 90 (85)
HOFm: 104.5 (63)
HOFs: 59 (22)

Gorilla Composite: 2.7 (1.5)

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Frank Howard was taken by the Indians with the 4th overall pick in the 2051 draft.

Like fellow classmate Bill White, Howard exploded on the scene and took ROY. He batted .311 with 57 HR and 141 RBI. Unlike White, this was not the crest of his production curve. His npa OPS+ was 160 for the season. This was also good for an MVP nod.

Three times he would lead the league in HR and RBI. Not in seperate years, but he led in both categories three times (including his rookie season).

He would also pick up 3 MVPs (including his rookie season).

In 2063 (now a Rockie) he had, perhaps, his best season. Though he did not lead the league in either HR or RBI he still managed to, in 122 games, swat 53 HR and drive in 133 while slashing 352/457/765 for a career best npa OPS+ of 219, and an MVP. In 2063 Howard put together a 40 game hit streak, 3rd longest in league history.

He followed up in 2064 by winning his third MVP. This time he did lead the league in HR and RBI as he belted a career high 62 round trippers and delivered a career high 160 RBI while slashing 360/442/744 (npa OPS+ 210).

4 times he hit at least 50 HR. 11 times he hit at least 40.

For his career, Howard clubbed 710 HR (11th, one spot ahead of Orlando Cepeda) and drove in 1954 men (8th, one spot behind Cepeda and one spot ahead of Dave Kingman). He crossed the plate, himself, 1551 times (26th, one spot ahead of Nap Lajoie).

He rapped 2612 hits (34th, one spot ahead of Sam Crawford) and walked 1048 times (53rd) en route to a career slash line of 312/389/619 (83rd, one spot ahead of Joe Torre/83rd/25th, one spot behind Barry Bonds). He hit 394 doubles. Howard enters the HOF 25th on the career OPS list.

An 8 time All Star, Howard played through the 2072 season, and retired in 2073. He enters the HOF on his first ballot, at the age of 47.

Black Ink: 36 (17)
Gray Ink: 191 (121)
HOFm: 290 (61)
HOFs: 66 (26)

Gorilla Composite: 5.9 (2.4)

Using the standards in place here and applying them to RL, Frank Howard falls short of Hall induction. Whereas I am completely on the fence re Gil Hodges entering Cooperstown, I tend to slightly favor Howard's induction.

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Steve Carlton was selected by the Tigers with the 47th overall pick in the second rd of the 2049 draft. WHAT?!? Were there 46 bonehead selections previously?

Well, the first pick was HOFer Bobby Mathews. The second pick was HOFer George Davies. The 9th pick was HOFer Bill White. And there was a lot of talent in between picks 9 and 47, also. Just a very deep draft pool.

But to see Carlton fall out of the top quintile of picks is quite amazing.

Carlton signed with the Tigers and made his debut as a 19 year-old. Perhaps the scouts saw him as not ML ready, and that is why he fell. It was not until his 4th season, when he went 15-9, that he started to mature into what we think of as a Steve Carlton talent. He struck out over 1 man per IP for the first time. He would accomplish that feat in each of his next 14 seasons.

In his 13th season as a Tiger, Carlton won 20 games for the first time. He chose to sign with Columbus for the 2063 season (after I had been fired).

In 2063 he led the Thunder in Starts, wins, Ks, and IP as he brought the pitching stability they needed to win the WS. Carlton was 16-10 with an OOTP ERA of 3.73 (npa ERA+ 123). He is the first player from that team to reach the converted tractor shed (which is this HOF), but he will not be the only one.

He followed up in 2064 by striking out 300 men for the first time in his career. He will reach this milestone in each of his next 4 seasons, as well.

He posted a career high 25 wins vs 7 losses and crafted an OOTP ERA of 3.18 (npa ERA+ 150) to win the Cy Young Award. He had other fine seasons, but this was the only time he received CYA hardware.

Sitting on 289 wins and 205 losses following the 2070 season, Carlton received no offers to play in spite of having tossed a very serviceable 116 innings for an 11-6 record and an OOTP ERA of 4.41 (npa OPS+ 96).

He did not retire until 2073, but 2070 was his last big league action.

Carlton enters the HOF with 4886 strikeouts in 4320 2/3 IP and a career ERA of 3.77.

Carlton is 5th on the all time CG list with 73, one spot behind Early Wynn. His 13 shutouts are one fewer than Lefty Grove and Tommy Bridges. They are one more than Sandy Koufax, Willie McGill and Early Wynn. The total places him 36th on the career list.

Carlton was an All Star six times and won one Gold Glove. He enters the HOF at the age of 48 on the first ballot.

Black Ink: 52 (69)
Gray Ink: 236 (285)
HOFm: 202 (266)
HOFs: 53 (58)

Gorilla Composite: 4.7 (5.8)

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All players inducted in the Class of 2079 are making their second appearance in an OOTP HOF.

Steve Carlton is the 36th RL HOFer (out of 123 entrants) to be inducted, here.

08-19-2013, 11:01 PM	#123
VanillaGorilla All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 1,371	Class of 2079: White, Howard, Carlton Which White? Which Howard?? Well, we know which Carlton.... --------------------------------- Bill D White was selected by the Angels with the 9th pick in the 2049 draft. He exploded onto the scene by batting .358 (201 hits) with 38 HR and 118 RBI. He scored 107 times with an OBP of .409 and a slg% of .651 to give him a npa OPS+ of 168. These numbers, along with a Gold Glove, were good enough to crown him Rookie of the Year. His slash line figures would all stand as career bests. White had a career slash line of 300/354/504. That tells you that he obviously had multiple .300 seasons...he did...eight. Twice he collected 200 hits in a season, also. He wound up with 2695 hits in his career (27th, one spot behind Tony Perez). 556 of those were doubles (21st, two more than Hank Aaron) and 64 were triples (52nd). He hit 386 HR. When White retired following the 2069 season he had appeared in 3 All Star games and had won 2 Gold Gloves. He enters the HOF 12 days after his 49th birthday. He played slightly more often in the OF than at 1B. He enters as a center fielder. Black Ink: 5 (1) Gray InK: 90 (85) HOFm: 104.5 (63) HOFs: 59 (22) Gorilla Composite: 2.7 (1.5) -------------------------------------------- Frank Howard was taken by the Indians with the 4th overall pick in the 2051 draft. Like fellow classmate Bill White, Howard exploded on the scene and took ROY. He batted .311 with 57 HR and 141 RBI. Unlike White, this was not the crest of his production curve. His npa OPS+ was 160 for the season. This was also good for an MVP nod. Three times he would lead the league in HR and RBI. Not in seperate years, but he led in both categories three times (including his rookie season). He would also pick up 3 MVPs (including his rookie season). In 2063 (now a Rockie) he had, perhaps, his best season. Though he did not lead the league in either HR or RBI he still managed to, in 122 games, swat 53 HR and drive in 133 while slashing 352/457/765 for a career best npa OPS+ of 219, and an MVP. In 2063 Howard put together a 40 game hit streak, 3rd longest in league history. He followed up in 2064 by winning his third MVP. This time he did lead the league in HR and RBI as he belted a career high 62 round trippers and delivered a career high 160 RBI while slashing 360/442/744 (npa OPS+ 210). 4 times he hit at least 50 HR. 11 times he hit at least 40. For his career, Howard clubbed 710 HR (11th, one spot ahead of Orlando Cepeda) and drove in 1954 men (8th, one spot behind Cepeda and one spot ahead of Dave Kingman). He crossed the plate, himself, 1551 times (26th, one spot ahead of Nap Lajoie). He rapped 2612 hits (34th, one spot ahead of Sam Crawford) and walked 1048 times (53rd) en route to a career slash line of 312/389/619 (83rd, one spot ahead of Joe Torre/83rd/25th, one spot behind Barry Bonds). He hit 394 doubles. Howard enters the HOF 25th on the career OPS list. An 8 time All Star, Howard played through the 2072 season, and retired in 2073. He enters the HOF on his first ballot, at the age of 47. Black Ink: 36 (17) Gray Ink: 191 (121) HOFm: 290 (61) HOFs: 66 (26) Gorilla Composite: 5.9 (2.4) Using the standards in place here and applying them to RL, Frank Howard falls short of Hall induction. Whereas I am completely on the fence re Gil Hodges entering Cooperstown, I tend to slightly favor Howard's induction. --------------------------------------- Steve Carlton was selected by the Tigers with the 47th overall pick in the second rd of the 2049 draft. WHAT?!? Were there 46 bonehead selections previously? Well, the first pick was HOFer Bobby Mathews. The second pick was HOFer George Davies. The 9th pick was HOFer Bill White. And there was a lot of talent in between picks 9 and 47, also. Just a very deep draft pool. But to see Carlton fall out of the top quintile of picks is quite amazing. Carlton signed with the Tigers and made his debut as a 19 year-old. Perhaps the scouts saw him as not ML ready, and that is why he fell. It was not until his 4th season, when he went 15-9, that he started to mature into what we think of as a Steve Carlton talent. He struck out over 1 man per IP for the first time. He would accomplish that feat in each of his next 14 seasons. In his 13th season as a Tiger, Carlton won 20 games for the first time. He chose to sign with Columbus for the 2063 season (after I had been fired). In 2063 he led the Thunder in Starts, wins, Ks, and IP as he brought the pitching stability they needed to win the WS. Carlton was 16-10 with an OOTP ERA of 3.73 (npa ERA+ 123). He is the first player from that team to reach the converted tractor shed (which is this HOF), but he will not be the only one. He followed up in 2064 by striking out 300 men for the first time in his career. He will reach this milestone in each of his next 4 seasons, as well. He posted a career high 25 wins vs 7 losses and crafted an OOTP ERA of 3.18 (npa ERA+ 150) to win the Cy Young Award. He had other fine seasons, but this was the only time he received CYA hardware. Sitting on 289 wins and 205 losses following the 2070 season, Carlton received no offers to play in spite of having tossed a very serviceable 116 innings for an 11-6 record and an OOTP ERA of 4.41 (npa OPS+ 96). He did not retire until 2073, but 2070 was his last big league action. Carlton enters the HOF with 4886 strikeouts in 4320 2/3 IP and a career ERA of 3.77. Carlton is 5th on the all time CG list with 73, one spot behind Early Wynn. His 13 shutouts are one fewer than Lefty Grove and Tommy Bridges. They are one more than Sandy Koufax, Willie McGill and Early Wynn. The total places him 36th on the career list. Carlton was an All Star six times and won one Gold Glove. He enters the HOF at the age of 48 on the first ballot. Black Ink: 52 (69) Gray Ink: 236 (285) HOFm: 202 (266) HOFs: 53 (58) Gorilla Composite: 4.7 (5.8) --------------------------------------------- All players inducted in the Class of 2079 are making their second appearance in an OOTP HOF. Steve Carlton is the 36th RL HOFer (out of 123 entrants) to be inducted, here. Last edited by VanillaGorilla; 08-20-2013 at 07:21 AM.