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Originally Posted by Questdog
Well, I must say I am sad to see Adrian go. One of my favorites and the same name as my oldest daughter.....
Not saying, the trade is bad, just sad....
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Let's just remember Bobby Quinn and not worry about that other guy anymore.
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Originally Posted by MarkCuban
A definite frustration trade here -- Portland is back six games, Toner in particular is starting to fade, and New York has been on fire -- I don't think you can win the division this season.
Bad move. All three guys could pan out eventually, and at least one will come back and bite you in the furry tush.
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First, the Coons were five games out, and we've blown bigger leads than that. Secondly, with the insane starting pitching we have going, even a modest offense that scores around 4.5 runs per game would be enough to send the Critters onto a winning streak.
You can say that about ANY trade that involves dealing prospects for a player. If anything, Vic Mercado in the Ron Richards deal might be the very best of the bunch we dealt for offensive upgrades.
Frustration was involved indeed. I have watched Quebell fail with runners on base forever now.
People say that RBI's are not a relevant stat (anymore). I disagree. They are relevant in the context of the lineup. Nobody expects Carmona to have 100 RBI at the top of the order. (Or: Lance Leadoff (.310/.390/.400, 5 HR, 50 RBI) is not a worse batter than Sammy Swinger (.245/.300/.490, 27 HR, 110 RBI) because he has less than half his RBI) But Quebell, who started the season batting fourth behind Cookie, Sandy, and Bednarski - all three of whom get on base at a clip of .360 or better - mathematically has any of those three (or even several of them) reach at a rate slightly better than 75% at any given run through the lineup. While there are instances where Cookie gets caught stealing, or is driven in by one of the other guys, or Sandy makes the third out, or Bednarski homers, Quebell still came up with a men on base almost 60% of the time.
And what did he do? Nothing! If a middle-of-the-order guy, who is healthy, and with nobody on base can swing a bunch, has 43 RBI at the end of July, while batting behind such a top of the order, he's actively and actually killing you. D-Alex is the same, by the way. Just look at the numbers for the team offense. Lots of 7th places in there. Where is the team as a whole? Last in runs scored.
Everybody needs a scape goat, and Quebell is mine. And then D-Alex, and Bednarski, in descending order. Nunley has been moved to third because he hits lots of doubles, but he doesn't connect with the top two either, which is utterly frustrating.
The Raccoons are stranding runners at a completely bonkers rate. They need someone to drive Critters home, finally!
Lastly, I don't know why you are particularly obsessed with Toner, but he threw 219 innings in 2012 (all in the minors), and 214 innings in 2013 (partly in the minors), so he's probably not going to dry up so soon. He's been blown up for 5+ earned runs four times this season, once in each month. He also leads the league in shutouts. If anything, he's inconsistent. The only starters we have that have not allowed multiple 6+ ER games this year are Brownie and Conway. In fact, neither of them has allowed more than 4 ER in any game.