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Originally Posted by cinemaodyssey
Here's one of those team pictures that has been printed in books, discussed online and still the IDs have never really matched up. Most prominently, the picture was featured in the book "The Western League: A Baseball History" in 2002 with the players listed as:
Top Row, L-R: Fred O'Neill, Thomas McAndries, G. Higgins (Pres.), Jack Ryan, Welday Wallace (Mgr.), Bill Mountjoy
Middle Row, L-R: Joe Straub, Ed Silch, Henry Lauser, Tom Hogan, Dan Dugdale, Frank Meinke
Bottom Row, L-R: Darby O'Brien, George Tebeau
I have many issues with those proposed identifications. The ones I think are correct are: O'Neill, Silch, Dugdale, Meinke, O'Brien and Tebeau. Higgins is most likely correct as well.
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Has anyone tried to contact the person who provided the photo to see if the IDs came from it directly? I think he was a member of the Denver SABR Chapter at one point.
Below is the caption for the photo from "The Western League". I will say when I read it, it isn't clear to me exactly who is who in the photo relative to the caption.
I would also point out that Tom Hogan isn't in Baseball-Reference. I first came across his name about a year or so ago, while I was researching the biography for Bob Hogan, who is attributed with playing for Denver in 1886 and 1887 (and St Joseph in 1887), when in fact it was Tom Hogan. Wherever those IDs came from, they were done based on an older source than Baseball-Reference was built from.