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Originally Posted by 3fbrown
Thanks for this thread Lucky, even if things fell apart more than you would have liked. For what it is worth (and I posted about this some time back) I've been doing manual imports for Black & Cuban players for my league, which just finished the 1917 season. I am in some ways less organized than you, or at least less systematic. I keep a semi-updated tally of where the league's talent levels are (say, what are the 0th, 25th, 50th, 75th, and 100th percentile values for pitcher movement and so on) for all talent ratings. Then I use Seamheads - and Eric Chalek's MLEs and other information when available - to create players from scratch.
I have not had issues with player development that I can tell, not like you describe. Some players don't live up to their potential, some do. Pitchers tend to overachieve, but I think that's because may show up at age 17/18/19 and have a lot of time to increase velocity and thus increase their potential. The best pitcher in the league right now is Bill Lindsay, and the league pitching leaders are dominated by Black/Cuban pitchers like Joe Williams, Dick Whitworth, Dizzy Dismukes, John Donaldson, Dick Redding, Juan Padron, Lico Mederos, Dick Redding, and Dicta Johnson. It doesn't bother me, but it's an issue that I would need to address if my goal was maximum accuracy. Black hitters have not dominated to the same extent (I feel they are well balanced overall), but the two league MVPs in 1917 were Oscar Charleston and Cristobal Torriente. I am still running OOTP 21 though, maybe that matters.
I can answer one of your points of confusion though. Carlos Moran's defense - it's bad because he is left handed! The AI does not like that! If you make him a right handed thrower it should clear things up, even if it's not the truth.
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Appreciate the feedback 3fB, as well as the Carlos Moran clarification.
This project is far from dead, quite the opposite - I am working toward making a database that uses my stats rather than the current ones. But obviously this is a massive step up and will take a lot of work and time.
I am currently in the first phase of this, where I just use generic career paths where players develop and peak at similar rates and ages. The testing for that - which is designed to see how closely the game follows the inputted stats - has gone really well and given me the platform to move onto phase two. This is where I actually go to each individual player and try to approximate their historical careers with regard to better and worse seasons using the same combination of SH and MLE data. It will never be identical, nor do I want it to be because there are just too many statistical holes for NeLers that play havoc with their ratings in-game. What it is designed to do is at least replicate each career to some degree while providing the overall career output for the game to produce, just like it does with MLBers. In this way, my ratings will be able to be used under all game conditions - recalc / dev / both / TCR set however you want it. Hopefully I can also make it so these NeLers come in as rookies automatically in the appropriate year.
This will only be for the 450 or so players EC currently covers with his MLEs and any he subsequently provides this data for. The plan is to use Doom's DB tool to replace the current stats with mine.
As I said, this is all some way off and will be subject to what, if any, changes are made in 23 with regard to NeL players.
Just as a taster, here are the stats Phase One has produced for NeL players thru 1930. The pitchers need work, so I'll only include the hitting stats. I have only included the biggest names in this iteration.
Retired players
Active players
I will be continuing this test process until all of the NeL players in this first batch have come and gone, so somewhere around 1960, and will put the final results up here at that point.