Quote:
Originally Posted by David Watts
Has it ever been said one way or another by one of the game developers if real transactions/real lineups works with historical minors turned on? Seems like something that should be clarified.
|
As Lukas alludes, the game allows you to use both historical minors and historical transactions, but there is a warning that it's "not recommended." What's unclear (to me) is
why it's not recommended. Perhaps Lukas can clarify
At any rate, based upon my experience, you can play with both historical minors and historical transactions and the game will work. It's just a matter of having the appropriate expectations...
- With historical transactions enabled but without historical minor leagues, you can expect OOTP's transactions database to do a great job of ensuring that players will be with the correct major league organization at the correct times.
- With historical transactions enabled and with historical minor leagues enabled, major league players will
generally be with their correct organizations at the correct time (this is less of a sure thing with players who barely played in the majors); minor league players will be a crapshoot, especially as your league moves forward through the years, since there are no minor league transactions in the database... Future
major leaguers will generally be with the correct organization (not necessarily the correct minor-league team because that's an AI decision), but career
minor leaguers will get scattered around very non-historically. (Or, you can keep them from scattering by disabling trading and fooling with other settings to keep player movement to a minimum; that's not historically accurate either, but it's an option).
So my understanding - or best guess - as to why OOTP does not recommend blending historical transactions and historical minors is simply because it's
sort of this and sort of that, thus unpredictable, and thus less likely to result in what a typical gamer might expect. But otherwise, assuming an understanding of how it works and therefore what the expectations are, it works.
That all said, I had a similar experience as the original poster, and as pstrickert mentioned in this thread. The details can be found here:
https://forums.ootpdevelopments.com/...d.php?t=333547
So what I think this boils down to is that historical transactions and historical minors - if used together -
should work as described above, and they generally
do, but there may be an issue or bug that can cause a problem, although it is rare, and the cause of that issue has not been determined. Thus, "not recommended." (I'll add that I've done a
lot of playing and testing with both hist txns and hist minors and other than the issue in my link above, I haven't noticed missing players... other than some missing career minor leaguers, but that is an issue that is unrelated to historical transactions. So I would say the issue is indeed rare, but perhaps investigating why Jackie Robinson seems to be missing in these types of leagues would be worthwhile endeavor for the developers from the perspective that not finding this bug now
could cause bigger problems later...)
As for historical lineups, I have very little experience using them - with or without historical minors. I would assume that they would work fine for the majors - which is the only place they can be used - and would otherwise have no affect on minors. Not sure, though.
Lukas: Please feel free to correct anything I have wrong, and/or add comments. Thanks!