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pstrickert · 05-20-2022, 11:38 AM

If I may add my .02 to the discussion...

Here's how I've always understood the inherent problems with using real minor leagues when real historical lineups & transactions are enabled. The AI has freedom to move players back and forth between the minors and majors. So, even though real lineups will be used at the major league level, the AI is free to assemble the roster (apart from each day's starters) with minor league call-ups. So, the user may be surprised to see (especially) a bench player or relief pitcher on the active roster who IRL was never called up to the majors that season. And, conversely, a marginal player may be sent down to the minors, even though IRL the team kept him on the major league roster all season. For some users, this will be an unpleasant surprise. Other users, however, may not have a problem with it.

As for the Jackie Robinson problem...

Here's what happened. The AI released him from Montreal (in the BRO organization). The AI then had another team (in this case a Negro League team) sign him as a free agent. To my knowledge, this is not supposed to happen, even when minor leagues are enabled. I believe it rarely happens; but I do seem to remember it occurring one time in a past version of OOTP. So, I'm hoping it is something easily fixed. I could be wrong, but I've always thought this was the intention: no minor league releases, or FA signings, or trades. (Actually, I don't remember any user reports of the AI making minor league trades under these conditions.)

05-20-2022, 11:38 AM	#31
pstrickert Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 16,439	If I may add my .02 to the discussion... Here's how I've always understood the inherent problems with using real minor leagues when real historical lineups & transactions are enabled. The AI has freedom to move players back and forth between the minors and majors. So, even though real lineups will be used at the major league level, the AI is free to assemble the roster (apart from each day's starters) with minor league call-ups. So, the user may be surprised to see (especially) a bench player or relief pitcher on the active roster who IRL was never called up to the majors that season. And, conversely, a marginal player may be sent down to the minors, even though IRL the team kept him on the major league roster all season. For some users, this will be an unpleasant surprise. Other users, however, may not have a problem with it. As for the Jackie Robinson problem... Here's what happened. The AI released him from Montreal (in the BRO organization). The AI then had another team (in this case a Negro League team) sign him as a free agent. To my knowledge, this is not supposed to happen, even when minor leagues are enabled. I believe it rarely happens; but I do seem to remember it occurring one time in a past version of OOTP. So, I'm hoping it is something easily fixed. I could be wrong, but I've always thought this was the intention: no minor league releases, or FA signings, or trades. (Actually, I don't remember any user reports of the AI making minor league trades under these conditions.)