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Originally Posted by WarningTrakPower
Would you rather watch Ernie Clement play 3B or Matt Chapman?
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Chapman, obviously, but that's a false equivalence on a few levels- Ernie is much cheaper, Chapman got a *horrible* contract last year that I'm thrilled the Jays went nowhere near after he turned down way more money from them the year before, and Ernie both wasn't the planned starting 3B last year and presumably won't be the planned starting 3B this year either.
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Originally Posted by WarningTrakPower
Springer isn't going anywhere and I think his defense will continue to regress (even if he was a platoon DH bat or some sort).
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If Springer isn't going anywhere then his defense is certainly more valuable than his bat; let him continue to be a ~1.5-win RF and bring in a masher to DH.
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Originally Posted by WarningTrakPower
I believe Barger would be at minimum average in RF (he has a great arm) and I agree with Gurriel defensively, but his bat would be an improvement.
Clase is an excellent defender in CF (theoretically making it easier for the corner OF defenders) and speed at bottom of lineup (even if he was an 80 OPS+ hitter).
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I'd need to see Barger learn to actually play OF to think he's anywhere near average defensively there, since an arm isn't really relevant. Gurriel...doesn't really have a bat? 105 wRC+ isn't exactly knocking the cover off the ball when you're a DH playing the outfield. And Clase is just a much worse version of Varsho in every way (and is probably the player most Blue Jays fans think Varsho is, funnily enough)
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Originally Posted by WarningTrakPower
Moreno is a fine hitter (105 OPS+ so far in his career) and will only be 25 next season. Kirk has turned out to be an excellent defensive catcher, but his bat has fallen off. The last two seasons he has a 93 OPS+ with zero power in his bat it seems.
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If Moreno is a fine hitter, then so is Varsho (99 wRC+ last year), who also brings with him generational defense. Kirk is *also* only 25, who has at least shown the ability to be a real impact bat. And even his 'zero power' down years are...basically the same pop as Moreno's full career (.107 vs .113 ISO)?
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Originally Posted by actionjackson
I'd love to wake up from this front office nightmare with a team I can cheer for. I'd even take a massive rebuild. Anything. As long as it makes sense.
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Sounds like how I felt in 2014-2016 before they brought in a breath of fresh air to replace the donkey we had before. At least now there's a vision and a good future outlook.