Statcast in ootp

jpeters1734 · 05-19-2016, 02:32 PM

One Way to Use Statcast as the Future of Evaluating Hitters | FanGraphs Baseball

An interesting article that makes an obvious point. Some singles are far more valuable than others. Which makes me wonder, is the new statcast data ever going to find its way into ootp? Is it relevant? How can the sim model reflect this?

Matt Arnold · 05-19-2016, 03:10 PM

We're always looking to incorporate new things into the game. I would *love* to be able to incorporate more of this stuff into the game, not just for 3D to get more accurate hits, but also as a driving force when measuring player aging, to evaluate prospects, to get a better view overall of player talents and abilities, and for everything in the game.

But sadly, I don't have unlimited time on my hands, and we have to be careful that going too far would turn things into an arcade game where Stanton hits 200 home runs in a season. So I think we're still a ways away from truly incorporating this all.

Number4 · 05-19-2016, 03:51 PM

About long singles: they are a bit lacking in the game IMO.

I'd like to see 2 play-by-play-scenarios which result in long singles:

1: Hard line drive to deep LF/RF, off the wall. Runner to 1st, Speed check - if passed runner to second.
If not, Baserunning instincts check - if passed, 50% runner to 2nd, 50% runner stays at first
If failed - 50% runner stays at first, 50% runner tries for second, outfielder arm check, if passed - out.

2: Runners at 1st, 1st and 2nd or bases loaded, long fly ball to the outfield, runners hold - only a single. Runner from 2nd scores, yet runner from first only makes it to second.

NoOne · 05-19-2016, 06:22 PM

once there is enough data it's going to make these types of games more accurate.... can't wait.

jpeters1734 · 05-19-2016, 06:49 PM

yeah the new data from statcast is very exciting! I LOVE how MLB the show has hit speed now. If only OOTPD had the resources of Sony...

Number4 · 05-19-2016, 06:59 PM

MLB The Show is a completly different game genre than OOTP. It's like comparing in football FIFA or PES with a manager game.
I'd see statcast-like stats in OOTP as a nice bonus, yet quite down on the list of features that should be included.

jpeters1734 · 05-19-2016, 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Number4

MLB The Show is a completly different game genre than OOTP. It's like comparing in football FIFA or PES with a manager game.
I'd see statcast-like stats in OOTP as a nice bonus, yet quite down on the list of features that should be included.

lol obviously. i wasn't comparing the two

They both satisfy different itches. I was merely dreaming about the possibilities if OOTPD had the resources of a company like Sony

05-19-2016, 02:32 PM	#1
jpeters1734 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Juust a bit outside... Posts: 6,216	Statcast in ootp One Way to Use Statcast as the Future of Evaluating Hitters \| FanGraphs Baseball An interesting article that makes an obvious point. Some singles are far more valuable than others. Which makes me wonder, is the new statcast data ever going to find its way into ootp? Is it relevant? How can the sim model reflect this? __________________ "Cannonball Coming!" Go Bucs!! Founder and League Caretaker of the Professional Baseball Circuit, www.probaseballcircuit.com An Un-Official Guide to Minor League Management in OOTP 21 Ratings Scale Conversion Cross-Reference Cheat Sheet

05-19-2016, 06:49 PM	#5
jpeters1734 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Juust a bit outside... Posts: 6,216	yeah the new data from statcast is very exciting! I LOVE how MLB the show has hit speed now. If only OOTPD had the resources of Sony... __________________ "Cannonball Coming!" Go Bucs!! Founder and League Caretaker of the Professional Baseball Circuit, www.probaseballcircuit.com An Un-Official Guide to Minor League Management in OOTP 21 Ratings Scale Conversion Cross-Reference Cheat Sheet

05-19-2016, 03:10 PM	#2
Matt Arnold OOTP Developer Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Here and there Posts: 15,833	We're always looking to incorporate new things into the game. I would love to be able to incorporate more of this stuff into the game, not just for 3D to get more accurate hits, but also as a driving force when measuring player aging, to evaluate prospects, to get a better view overall of player talents and abilities, and for everything in the game. But sadly, I don't have unlimited time on my hands, and we have to be careful that going too far would turn things into an arcade game where Stanton hits 200 home runs in a season. So I think we're still a ways away from truly incorporating this all.

05-19-2016, 03:51 PM	#3
Number4 Major Leagues Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 460	About long singles: they are a bit lacking in the game IMO. I'd like to see 2 play-by-play-scenarios which result in long singles: 1: Hard line drive to deep LF/RF, off the wall. Runner to 1st, Speed check - if passed runner to second. If not, Baserunning instincts check - if passed, 50% runner to 2nd, 50% runner stays at first If failed - 50% runner stays at first, 50% runner tries for second, outfielder arm check, if passed - out. 2: Runners at 1st, 1st and 2nd or bases loaded, long fly ball to the outfield, runners hold - only a single. Runner from 2nd scores, yet runner from first only makes it to second.

05-19-2016, 06:22 PM	#4
NoOne Banned Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 7,273 Infractions: 0/1 (3)	once there is enough data it's going to make these types of games more accurate.... can't wait.

05-19-2016, 06:59 PM	#6
Number4 Major Leagues Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 460	MLB The Show is a completly different game genre than OOTP. It's like comparing in football FIFA or PES with a manager game. I'd see statcast-like stats in OOTP as a nice bonus, yet quite down on the list of features that should be included.