Inaccurate historical DL--help!

stushea · 06-06-2020, 10:34 PM

Folks,
I'm a newbie, so please forgive me if I'm missing something. I'm replaying the 1969 Padres season, and for some reason the program has put one of my players on the disabled list. He never went on the disabled list that year (he played 151 games, and I have MLB's 1969 commissioner's bulletins that list all transactions). Why would this happen and how do I fix it?
Thank you.

pstrickert · 06-06-2020, 10:44 PM

It might help if you identified the player.

stushea · 06-07-2020, 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by pstrickert

It might help if you identified the player.

It's Ollie Brown.

pstrickert · 06-07-2020, 01:38 AM

The transactions file inactivates him every once in a while for a single day. He is always then reactivated and never misses a start. I don't know why he is inactivated on those particular days.

ALB123 · 06-07-2020, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by pstrickert

The transactions file inactivates him every once in a while for a single day. He is always then reactivated and never misses a start. I don't know why he is inactivated on those particular days.

Transactions file? What is the filename and location of such a file? I've skimmed through my ootp 21 data folder but didn't see anything pop out at me. Thank you...

stushea · 06-07-2020, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by pstrickert

The transactions file inactivates him every once in a while for a single day. He is always then reactivated and never misses a start. I don't know why he is inactivated on those particular days.

Thank you! How curious is that?! One thing I did notice is that prior to Brown being 'disabled,' he'd been in a horrific slump.

pstrickert · 06-07-2020, 11:56 AM

The file's not available to access and edit. I happen to have a copy before it was processed into proprietary format.

ALB123 · 06-08-2020, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by pstrickert

The file's not available to access and edit. I happen to have a copy before it was processed into proprietary format.

Ahhh okay... I was surprised when you mentioned it. I've been through the data files many times when looking for something - usually reports I save to HDD. I was certain I had never seen a file related to transactions.

stushea · 06-11-2020, 07:43 PM

I'm having this problem again with the '69 Padres. Tommy Dean has been disabled by the program even though he was not actually disabled during the 1969 season. Is this a normal thing to happen in historical seasons?
Thanks to anyone who can help...

ALB123 · 06-12-2020, 04:32 AM

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Originally Posted by stushea

I'm having this problem again with the '69 Padres. Tommy Dean has been disabled by the program even though he was not actually disabled during the 1969 season. Is this a normal thing to happen in historical seasons?
Thanks to anyone who can help...

Ahhh...I wish I knew how to help you. I've never tried playing the way you are playing ootp. I think Historical seasons are the most fun way to play ootp. I'm still on my very first saved game. I started as the 1981 Yankees and I'll be starting Spring Training 1989 soon.

I know I've read posts from other people who play ootp the way you are, but sadly, I didn't really pay notice of who those people were. Sorry, friend.

thehef · 06-12-2020, 04:36 AM

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Originally Posted by stushea

I'm having this problem again with the '69 Padres. Tommy Dean has been disabled by the program even though he was not actually disabled during the 1969 season. Is this a normal thing to happen in historical seasons?
Thanks to anyone who can help...

From the transactions file:

- inactivated on 5/2, activated on 5/6
- inactivated on 5/7, activated on 5/16
- inactivated on 7/9, activated on 7/25

I have no idea if he was actually injured during these interludes or what. Probably, but who knows... He didn't play in the minors that year, so despite his anemic performance at the plate, demotions to the minors doesn't explain it. So likely injuries, tho the first two stints are too short for him to have been placed on DL. More likely he was just unavailable...

FYI, tho it's not sortable or refinable, you can find the current sim year's historical txns by going to the dropdown menu for your game (MLB?), selecting Transactions, and then clicking the Historical Transactions tab. There you can view all historical txns for the calendar year of your game, even the ones that haven't occurred yet.

stushea · 06-12-2020, 06:28 PM

Thank you, folks. It's...odd. The third time he was 'out,' 7/9-7/25, he actually was injured but not disabled (per 1970 San Diego media guide). If you're trying to play historically accurate rosters, it's kind of a pain, but...here we are.

stushea · 06-14-2020, 09:24 PM

Well, now a 1969 Padres starting pitcher who was never disabled that year (Al Santorini) has been disabled. I guess what is happening here is that the game is trying to make managing more challenging? (As if managing a team that finished 52-110 isn't challenging enough?) :\

thehef · 06-14-2020, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by stushea

Well, now a 1969 Padres starting pitcher who was never disabled that year (Al Santorini) has been disabled. I guess what is happening here is that the game is trying to make managing more challenging? (As if managing a team that finished 52-110 isn't challenging enough?) :\

The historical txns file includes these for Santorini:

5/17/69 - inactivated
5/27/69 - reactivated
9/13/69 - inactivated
9/24/69 = reactivated

pstrickert · 06-15-2020, 12:03 AM

I don't have an answer. But I wonder if teams were reluctant to use the DL during that period because it was less flexible at the time.

https://www.baseballprospectus.com/n...ist-a-history/

Santorini may have been sidelined with minor injuries, even though he never landed on the DL. OOTP uses source files which sometimes contain annotated information -- and sometimes not.

David Watts · 06-15-2020, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by thehef

The historical txns file includes these for Santorini:

5/17/69 - inactivated
5/27/69 - reactivated
9/13/69 - inactivated
9/24/69 = reactivated

If you look at the Padres boxscores for all of those dates you will notice Santorini never pitches in a game from 05/17-05/26. He then returns on 05/27 as the Padres starting pitcher. If you do the same starting on 09/13 you will see that Santorini didn't throw a pitch from 09/13-0923 and then returned as the starting pitcher for the game on 09/24.

I wonder if the game deactivates him so the AI is forced to add another player to the 25 man roster when real lineups are used?

06-06-2020, 10:34 PM	#1
stushea Bat Boy Join Date: Jun 2020 Location: Chicago Posts: 11	Inaccurate historical DL--help! Folks, I'm a newbie, so please forgive me if I'm missing something. I'm replaying the 1969 Padres season, and for some reason the program has put one of my players on the disabled list. He never went on the disabled list that year (he played 151 games, and I have MLB's 1969 commissioner's bulletins that list all transactions). Why would this happen and how do I fix it? Thank you.

06-06-2020, 10:44 PM	#2
pstrickert Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 16,435	It might help if you identified the player.

06-07-2020, 01:38 AM	#4
pstrickert Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 16,435	The transactions file inactivates him every once in a while for a single day. He is always then reactivated and never misses a start. I don't know why he is inactivated on those particular days.

06-07-2020, 11:56 AM	#7
pstrickert Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 16,435	The file's not available to access and edit. I happen to have a copy before it was processed into proprietary format.

06-11-2020, 07:43 PM	#9
stushea Bat Boy Join Date: Jun 2020 Location: Chicago Posts: 11	I'm having this problem again with the '69 Padres. Tommy Dean has been disabled by the program even though he was not actually disabled during the 1969 season. Is this a normal thing to happen in historical seasons? Thanks to anyone who can help...

06-12-2020, 06:28 PM	#12
stushea Bat Boy Join Date: Jun 2020 Location: Chicago Posts: 11	Thank you, folks. It's...odd. The third time he was 'out,' 7/9-7/25, he actually was injured but not disabled (per 1970 San Diego media guide). If you're trying to play historically accurate rosters, it's kind of a pain, but...here we are.

06-14-2020, 09:24 PM	#13
stushea Bat Boy Join Date: Jun 2020 Location: Chicago Posts: 11	Well, now a 1969 Padres starting pitcher who was never disabled that year (Al Santorini) has been disabled. I guess what is happening here is that the game is trying to make managing more challenging? (As if managing a team that finished 52-110 isn't challenging enough?) :\

06-15-2020, 12:03 AM	#15
pstrickert Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 16,435	I don't have an answer. But I wonder if teams were reluctant to use the DL during that period because it was less flexible at the time. https://www.baseballprospectus.com/n...ist-a-history/ Santorini may have been sidelined with minor injuries, even though he never landed on the DL. OOTP uses source files which sometimes contain annotated information -- and sometimes not.