Pitcher's stamina disappears in resumed game

[Das_Schlippo]

My team (Red Sox) had a game suspended in the 3rd inning due to inclement weather. Several months later, the day of the resumed game came around, and I used the next starter in my rotation to resume the game in the top of the 3rd. I verified that Kutter Crawford was at 100% rest/energy before the game and sent him out to the mound. He has a stamina of 50, but after 38 pitches he was gassed. What happened here? There was no indication of injury, and he's normally good for 85-100 pitches. Was this some kind of glitch due to the resumed game? Did I screw something up? Ultimately the result was that he was totally gassed when I was not expecting it. By the time I could get a reliever warmed and in the game, the suddenly exhausted Crawford imploded and I ended up losing.

[MathBandit]

My guess is that for a game resumed midway through, OOTP assumes you are putting the pitcher in as a reliever.

[Das_Schlippo]

Originally Posted by MathBandit

My guess is that for a game resumed midway through, OOTP assumes you are putting the pitcher in as a reliever.

So it doesn't adjust for the fact that the pitcher is a member of the starting rotation. I wasn't sure if there was some mechanic in game where starters are more "stretched out" and capable of pitching for longer than relievers. I guess the answer is a resounding no.

[MathBandit]

Originally Posted by Das_Schlippo

So it doesn't adjust for the fact that the pitcher is a member of the starting rotation. I wasn't sure if there was some mechanic in game where starters are more "stretched out" and capable of pitching for longer than relievers. I guess the answer is a resounding no.

They are if you put them into the game as a Follower. I'm not sure if or how you could do that when the game is being resumed, though, and not as part of a regular 3rd-inning pitching change.

Otherwise though the game doesn't know if a pitcher is a 'Starter' or 'Reliever', largely since those are fairly meaningless and arbitrary terms.

[Rain King]

I don't play games out often, but I thought if a player is in the "Long Reliever" role they might get a little more stamina for relief outings?

But, yes, this is an area where OOTP could use some improvement.

Pitchers, generally, know how they are going to be used in a a game and can adjust for that to a degree even if it is outside of their typical role. So, it would be ideal to have a mechanism when sending a pitcher out there that allows them to make that adjustment to their approach for the day (within reason based on their overall role).

[Das_Schlippo]

Originally Posted by MathBandit

They are if you put them into the game as a Follower. .

OK, there was a follower checkbox. I checked it and then unchecked it because I didn't know what it meant. If I end up in the same situation in the future, I will try checking it and seeing what happens. Thanks!

[eauhomme]

Any time the follower checkbox is available, check it. Your stamina will be much greater.

It is for the times when a reliever pitches the first and/or second inning, then a member of the rotation comes in and pitches from there on, trying to get to the eighth or so.

Bringing in a rested pitcher with rotation-level stamina with follower checked will allow you to go 80-100 pitches, whereas leaving it unchecked will have him gassed at 30-40.

[MathBandit]

Originally Posted by eauhomme

Any time the follower checkbox is available, check it. Your stamina will be much greater.

Well, it depends if you want that or not. In some cases you might want the Stuff/etc boost from not being a Follower.

[eauhomme]

Originally Posted by MathBandit

Well, it depends if you want that or not. In some cases you might want the Stuff/etc boost from not being a Follower.

I'll have to have a look at that. I didn't notice there was a difference. Is it the difference between the stuff of a starter vs. the stuff of a reliever?

[MathBandit]

Originally Posted by eauhomme

I'll have to have a look at that. I didn't notice there was a difference. Is it the difference between the stuff of a starter vs. the stuff of a reliever?

Absolutely.

[kq76]

I wonder if we should always have a follower-like checkbox, like for any relief situation, not just following a starter, where you're basically telling the reliever, "give it all you've got, I'll bring in another reliever soon enough" vs "take it easy out there, I just want you to eat some innings". Hmm. I like it.