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DCustard67 · 01-12-2025, 11:38 AM

Is there a manual on how do play or do certain parts of the game? I want to read up figure out this International players and how to sign them and get them moved up on to my team and the whole WAR stuff. It's always something the owner wants me to do but I never do it because I haveb't a clue how to do it. Thanks

LansdowneSt · 01-12-2025, 12:03 PM

Start here:

https://forums.ootpdevelopments.com/...d.php?t=358669

After that just ask more specifically on the forum here.

micropterus58 · 01-12-2025, 12:37 PM

YouTube has tutorials for present and past versions of OOTP.
https://www.youtube.com/results?sear...=ootp+tutorial

twins_34 · 01-12-2025, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by DCustard67

Is there a manual on how do play or do certain parts of the game? I want to read up figure out this International players and how to sign them and get them moved up on to my team and the whole WAR stuff. It's always something the owner wants me to do but I never do it because I haveb't a clue how to do it. Thanks

Some of these owner goals, are almost impossible to complete. Especially when he wants you to like trade for an all-star or stuff like that.. I have had it where I literally traded for an all-star from the current season and it didn't complete the goal lol. Then you get the ones like "Get attendance up from 20,000 to 35,000" and there is no way you are going to be able to do this either, especially if your team is not winning.

Owner goals need to be worked on because with recent changes, some of them just, are not a possibility. That's why I kinda just turn them off for now. They are a cool challenge but, until the system gets worked on, it's a bit broken.

JasonC23 · 01-12-2025, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by twins_34

Some of these owner goals, are almost impossible to complete. Especially when he wants you to like trade for an ass-star or stuff like that...

Huh, I've never gotten that owner goal before.

Brad K · 01-13-2025, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by twins_34

Some of these owner goals, are almost impossible to complete. Especially when he wants you to like trade for an all-star or stuff like that.. I have had it where I literally traded for an all-star from the current season and it didn't complete the goal lol. Then you get the ones like "Get attendance up from 20,000 to 35,000" and there is no way you are going to be able to do this either, especially if your team is not winning.

Owner goals need to be worked on because with recent changes, some of them just, are not a possibility. That's why I kinda just turn them off for now. They are a cool challenge but, until the system gets worked on, it's a bit broken.

Maybe impossible to achieve owner goals are a feature not a defect. Like OOTP's version of the Kobayashi Maru Scenario. I suggest you add information on no win owner demands to the Wiki. It belongs because whether it's a feature or defect it's how the game works.

Brad K · 01-13-2025, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by JasonC23

Huh, I've never gotten that owner goal before.

I think it means to trade for Lenny Dykstra.

twins_34 · 01-14-2025, 03:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Brad K

Maybe impossible to achieve owner goals are a feature not a defect. Like OOTP's version of the Kobayashi Maru Scenario. I suggest you add information on no win owner demands to the Wiki. It belongs because whether it's a feature or defect it's how the game works.

Well, even though this is a funny post, this is stuff not needed on the wiki

It more means that the owner goals just need to be fixed.

Brad K · 01-14-2025, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by twins_34

Well, even though this is a funny post, this is stuff not needed on the wiki

It more means that the owner goals just need to be fixed.

The Wiki is supposed to describe how the game works. I don't see how your comments on how the game works don't belong in the Wiki.

Sweed · 01-14-2025, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Brad K

The Wiki is supposed to describe how the game works. I don't see how your comments on how the game works don't belong in the Wiki.

I have owner goals turned off, I find them to not be well done. Just humble opinion of someone always accused of thinking OOTP is perfect.

If it's something that needs to be fixed it's a bug (literally impossible = bug. almost impossible = is not a bug). A bug is the game NOT working as intended. Wiki is not, nor should it be for bug reporting. There is a forum here for that, along with a way to report issues to tech support if one feels the need.

If in the owner's goals one wants to mention in Wiki that some are almost impossible, cool. Any owner goals that cannot be done due to being impossible should go be reported in the bug forum and removed or fixed.

Bobfather · 01-14-2025, 03:37 PM

My problem with owner goals is that there are no tools to complete them.

twins_34 · 01-14-2025, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Brad K

The Wiki is supposed to describe how the game works. I don't see how your comments on how the game works don't belong in the Wiki.

No, it does not. The Wiki is to tell how the game is actually supposed to work not make bugs or features that have been neglected or are not working right, considered normal! You do not seem to know how the Wiki is supposed to be. When talking about owner goals you explain them, now how they might have been broken with code changes over the years. That's is what us beta testers get fixed and I for sure do not want to have to fix the Wiki because dumb stuff is put in, that does not help the situation.

twins_34 · 01-14-2025, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Sweed

A bug is the game NOT working as intended. Wiki is not, nor should it be for bug reporting. There is a forum here for that, along with a way to report issues to tech support if one feels the need.

This line right here Brad, is perfect and should be an example of WHY what you proposed should NOT end up in the Wiki. It is a bug and the game NOT working as intended. However, right now owner goals are not a big priority and AFAIK does not make or break the game in anyway besides your owner getting mad at you and sending you nasty emails telling you how upset he is with you.

Brad K · 01-14-2025, 08:39 PM

Folks, I didn't say anything about reporting errors in the Wiki. Nothing. All I said was that Twins described how the game worked. How the game works is what the Wiki is about.

Additionally no one in a position to know has stated whether impossible goals are a feature or a bug. Yet the assumption here is that it's a bug. Why? Reality is MLB owners ask for stupid stuff and impossible stuff. People aren't saying the OOTP owners asking for stupid stuff is a bug. So how is them asking for impossible stuff automatically considered a bug?

Brad K · 01-14-2025, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Sweed

I have owner goals turned off, I find them to not be well done. Just humble opinion of someone always accused of thinking OOTP is perfect.

I turn them off too. I don't want to work for a jerk in a game.

twins_34 · 01-14-2025, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Brad K

Folks, I didn't say anything about reporting errors in the Wiki. Nothing. All I said was that Twins described how the game worked. How the game works is what the Wiki is about.

Additionally no one in a position to know has stated whether impossible goals are a feature or a bug. Yet the assumption here is that it's a bug. Why? Reality is MLB owners ask for stupid stuff and impossible stuff. People aren't saying the OOTP owners asking for stupid stuff is a bug. So how is them asking for impossible stuff automatically considered a bug?

Please tell me this is not the way you think... As there is no common sense in it. Stuff like this is not absolute as you think and NO, it does not belong in the Wiki!

Back in OOTP 21 it was pretty easy to do owner goals. However, as the game and code has changed over the past 5 years, some parts were not updated with it. So no, just because it is how the game is, it would be false info and we do not put in false info because the feature needs to be updated. It is a BUG or more as a feature that needs to be updated to go with all the code changes over the past few years.

Brad K · 01-15-2025, 04:43 PM

The first issue is whether impossible goals are a bug or a feature. General speculation about coding does not provide an answer. If someone in a position to know says one way or another then the issue is resolved. That hasn't happened.

Attempts to demean my thought process are irrelevant to resolving the issue.

twins_34 · 01-15-2025, 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Brad K

The first issue is whether impossible goals are a bug or a feature. General speculation about coding does not provide an answer. If someone in a position to know says one way or another then the issue is resolved. That hasn't happened.

Attempts to demean my thought process are irrelevant to resolving the issue.

I already explained the situation. These goals at one time WERE easy to finish but with new code changes, it made some of the goals no longer able to be completed! So, no, the reason they are impossible is because code over the years and the lack of updating cause the issue so it is a bug but it is not a game breaking bug and one that is low on the totem pole. So, therefore does not need to be added to the wiki.

Brad K · 01-16-2025, 07:37 PM

Thank you for your polite explanation of your position. I am not convinced but due to lack of community support (there really isn't a Wiki community at this time) I am not going to argue the issue.

Thanks again.

01-12-2025, 11:38 AM	#1
DCustard67 Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: May 2018 Location: Eagan,Minnesota Posts: 20	manual Is there a manual on how do play or do certain parts of the game? I want to read up figure out this International players and how to sign them and get them moved up on to my team and the whole WAR stuff. It's always something the owner wants me to do but I never do it because I haveb't a clue how to do it. Thanks

01-12-2025, 12:03 PM	#2
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01-14-2025, 03:37 PM	#11
Bobfather All Star Starter Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Boston Ma. Posts: 1,643	My problem with owner goals is that there are no tools to complete them. __________________ I play out every game—one pitch mode.

01-12-2025, 12:37 PM	#3
micropterus58 All Star Starter Join Date: May 2007 Location: Connecticut Posts: 1,229	YouTube has tutorials for present and past versions of OOTP. https://www.youtube.com/results?sear...=ootp+tutorial

01-14-2025, 08:39 PM	#14
Brad K Banned Join Date: May 2016 Location: St Petersburg Florida USA Posts: 6,693 Infractions: 0/2 (4)	Folks, I didn't say anything about reporting errors in the Wiki. Nothing. All I said was that Twins described how the game worked. How the game works is what the Wiki is about. Additionally no one in a position to know has stated whether impossible goals are a feature or a bug. Yet the assumption here is that it's a bug. Why? Reality is MLB owners ask for stupid stuff and impossible stuff. People aren't saying the OOTP owners asking for stupid stuff is a bug. So how is them asking for impossible stuff automatically considered a bug?

01-15-2025, 04:43 PM	#17
Brad K Banned Join Date: May 2016 Location: St Petersburg Florida USA Posts: 6,693 Infractions: 0/2 (4)	The first issue is whether impossible goals are a bug or a feature. General speculation about coding does not provide an answer. If someone in a position to know says one way or another then the issue is resolved. That hasn't happened. Attempts to demean my thought process are irrelevant to resolving the issue.

01-16-2025, 07:37 PM	#19
Brad K Banned Join Date: May 2016 Location: St Petersburg Florida USA Posts: 6,693 Infractions: 0/2 (4)	Thank you for your polite explanation of your position. I am not convinced but due to lack of community support (there really isn't a Wiki community at this time) I am not going to argue the issue. Thanks again.