Styles and Coaching Styles

hitmanwa · 08-08-2018, 09:05 PM

Does anyone have filters or the criteria for the different styles.

Seems contact hitters just need =>60 ConPot and <45 Power
GB Pitchers need =>59 and Velo<96 maybe???

Just wondering if anyone would confirm and offer additional information.

Thanks all,

Timofmars · 08-09-2018, 12:52 AM

In OOTP 18, pitchers throwing 95-97 mph or higher are power pitchers.
Any pitcher that is a GB or extreme GB pitcher throwing less than 95-97 will be a GB pitcher.
Any pitcher that is not a GB or extreme GB pitcher who throws 91-93 mph or less will be a finesse pitcher.

For batting coaches, it's more complicated because the thresholds are dependent on the league level.

Power takes precedence. If a player has 72/100 power potential in the ML, he'll be a power hitter.
In AAA, it's about 60+ power.
In AA, it's about 55+.
In A (A+, A, and A-) it's about 45+.
In R, It's about 35+ or 32+.

If the player doesn't qualify as a power hitter, then contact is the next test.
To be a contact hitter, contact must be high and power must be low.
For the ML, contact must be about 72+, and power less than 45.
As you go to lower leagues, both figures decrease respectively.

Finally, if a batter doesn't qualify as either power or contact hitters, they could be a patient hitter if their eye level is high enough for their league level.
For ML, eye must be 65+ to be a patient hitter, I think.
For lower leagues, the requirement is lower, respectively.

Note that these are all dependent on potential ratings, not current ratings.

There will be players that don't fit any category. These are pitchers that throw 92-94 up to 94-96 mph and don't have GB or extreme GB tendencies, and batters that don't meet the requirements for any category at their league level.

Batters could be one type of hitter at a lower league level, and a different type or none at all at a higher level. For example, many batters might have enough power potential to be power hitters in rookie leagues, but will become patient hitters at higher leagues if their eye potential is high enough when their power potential drops below the threshold for that level.

Or a high contact potential player might be no type or patient at R because their power isn't low enough to be a contact hitter, but can be a contact hitter at a higher level because the maximum power requirement rises at higher levels.

According to the manual, coaches work better with players matching their type, but coaches are also supposed to be a bit better in teaching their preferred skill to anyone, even if they don't match types. So perhaps if you have a power hitter who is already fully developed in power but still needs to develop his eye, he might possibly benefit more from a patient coach. I don't know for sure, since I don't know how much of a bonus you get from matching player types compared to the bonus from a non-matching coach's speciality.

NoOne · 08-09-2018, 01:39 AM

just remember the category isn't causal to anything... it's a result.

relative to your team, a 'contact' hitter very well might be a 3-4-5 guy... if you have a drought of power ... so, the label really is irrelevant.

08-08-2018, 09:05 PM	#1
hitmanwa Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 41	Styles and Coaching Styles Does anyone have filters or the criteria for the different styles. Seems contact hitters just need =>60 ConPot and <45 Power GB Pitchers need =>59 and Velo<96 maybe??? Just wondering if anyone would confirm and offer additional information. Thanks all, Last edited by hitmanwa; 08-08-2018 at 09:24 PM.

08-09-2018, 12:52 AM	#2
Timofmars Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Feb 2018 Posts: 251	In OOTP 18, pitchers throwing 95-97 mph or higher are power pitchers. Any pitcher that is a GB or extreme GB pitcher throwing less than 95-97 will be a GB pitcher. Any pitcher that is not a GB or extreme GB pitcher who throws 91-93 mph or less will be a finesse pitcher. For batting coaches, it's more complicated because the thresholds are dependent on the league level. Power takes precedence. If a player has 72/100 power potential in the ML, he'll be a power hitter. In AAA, it's about 60+ power. In AA, it's about 55+. In A (A+, A, and A-) it's about 45+. In R, It's about 35+ or 32+. If the player doesn't qualify as a power hitter, then contact is the next test. To be a contact hitter, contact must be high and power must be low. For the ML, contact must be about 72+, and power less than 45. As you go to lower leagues, both figures decrease respectively. Finally, if a batter doesn't qualify as either power or contact hitters, they could be a patient hitter if their eye level is high enough for their league level. For ML, eye must be 65+ to be a patient hitter, I think. For lower leagues, the requirement is lower, respectively. Note that these are all dependent on potential ratings, not current ratings. There will be players that don't fit any category. These are pitchers that throw 92-94 up to 94-96 mph and don't have GB or extreme GB tendencies, and batters that don't meet the requirements for any category at their league level. Batters could be one type of hitter at a lower league level, and a different type or none at all at a higher level. For example, many batters might have enough power potential to be power hitters in rookie leagues, but will become patient hitters at higher leagues if their eye potential is high enough when their power potential drops below the threshold for that level. Or a high contact potential player might be no type or patient at R because their power isn't low enough to be a contact hitter, but can be a contact hitter at a higher level because the maximum power requirement rises at higher levels. According to the manual, coaches work better with players matching their type, but coaches are also supposed to be a bit better in teaching their preferred skill to anyone, even if they don't match types. So perhaps if you have a power hitter who is already fully developed in power but still needs to develop his eye, he might possibly benefit more from a patient coach. I don't know for sure, since I don't know how much of a bonus you get from matching player types compared to the bonus from a non-matching coach's speciality. Last edited by Timofmars; 08-09-2018 at 12:54 AM.

08-09-2018, 01:39 AM	#3
NoOne Banned Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 7,273 Infractions: 0/1 (3)	just remember the category isn't causal to anything... it's a result. relative to your team, a 'contact' hitter very well might be a 3-4-5 guy... if you have a drought of power ... so, the label really is irrelevant.