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Old 09-05-2025, 02:41 AM   #1
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US states as nations, CAN provinces as nations

Hello all
I am asking about an earlier version of OOTP (24) but I would hope this is relevant with the file format...
Can anyone help with adding the 50 states (and Washington DC) as nations, as well as all of the Canadian provinces as nations?
The idea would be that a player would be a citizen of a state, in addition to the USA (and the US/Canada would be the 2nd nationality)
Thanks in advance
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Old 09-09-2025, 02:02 PM   #2
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I have a World file that is set up this way. It even has second nation percentages set so that someone from Florida might have a second nation of "New York". It's based on the latest census data. The ids are different than the file that comes with the game, though, so it doesn't play well with existing universes.

I would be happy to share it with you. I think you also need the schools.xml file and maybe the weather.txt file. You are also going to want flag files for the nations. I can ZIP all that, as long as you know where to put everything.

There are two caveats:
1. It uses Dogzilla's Name File, although i don't think anything exactly breaks if you are using the name file that comes with the game.
2. It has a country that uses the women's name list (from #1), and there is a small chance (0.5%) that someone will have that country as a second nation. This was my way of having women players show up. I can eliminate this.

I can upload it this evening you are interested.

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Hello all
I am asking about an earlier version of OOTP (24) but I would hope this is relevant with the file format...
Can anyone help with adding the 50 states (and Washington DC) as nations, as well as all of the Canadian provinces as nations?
The idea would be that a player would be a citizen of a state, in addition to the USA (and the US/Canada would be the 2nd nationality)
Thanks in advance
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Old 09-09-2025, 03:39 PM   #3
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I would be interested in that!
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Old 09-09-2025, 11:32 PM   #4
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Try these.

My recommendation is to create a copy of the database folder (maybe call it database_statesasnations or something). Then unzip/copy the attached files into it. Again, these assume you have the Dogzilla names.xml file that you can find in a different thread.

I strongly recommend against copying over the files in the existing database folder . . . you have been warned.

Note that the flags in the nation_flags file are a mix of the real state flags and nicer alternatives for states that have boring/bad flags.
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File Type: zip schools.zip (672.2 KB, 33 views)
File Type: zip world_default.zip (2.68 MB, 33 views)
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Old 09-12-2025, 10:11 PM   #5
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Try these.

My recommendation is to create a copy of the database folder (maybe call it database_statesasnations or something). Then unzip/copy the attached files into it. Again, these assume you have the Dogzilla names.xml file that you can find in a different thread.

I strongly recommend against copying over the files in the existing database folder . . . you have been warned.

Note that the flags in the nation_flags file are a mix of the real state flags and nicer alternatives for states that have boring/bad flags.
Thank you for this
One thing that I noticed - your world.default is different than the original in regards to cities. If possible, I'm looking for the original list of cities per state. Does anyone have it (including you)? Including Washington DC as a separate state?
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Old 09-12-2025, 11:56 PM   #6
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Sorry,

I found a lot of issues with the cities in the default file, so I pulled data from the US,CAN, MEX census files plus (for the rest of the world) the information available at https://www.geonames.org/. It makes it easy to update it automatically every year. But I'm guessing it makes it incompatible with historical play.

In theory, my script for breaking states into nations should work with any world_default file, including the one that comes with the game, but I tested it out and it obviously needs to be tweaked a bit.

I recommend checking out the World Editor that appears elsewhere in the forum.

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Thank you for this
One thing that I noticed - your world.default is different than the original in regards to cities. If possible, I'm looking for the original list of cities per state. Does anyone have it (including you)? Including Washington DC as a separate state?
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Old 09-17-2025, 03:28 AM   #7
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Sorry,

I found a lot of issues with the cities in the default file, so I pulled data from the US,CAN, MEX census files plus (for the rest of the world) the information available at https://www.geonames.org/. It makes it easy to update it automatically every year. But I'm guessing it makes it incompatible with historical play.

In theory, my script for breaking states into nations should work with any world_default file, including the one that comes with the game, but I tested it out and it obviously needs to be tweaked a bit.

I recommend checking out the World Editor that appears elsewhere in the forum.
I found the World Editor, so I can edit this file. But is there an efficient way to import the cities found in the world_default file, to this file? I.e. all cities found in NY State (and the rest of the states/provinces) to this file?
BTW - this isn't an historical replay of any kind, it's an attempt to create a LLWS-like league and tournament
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Old 09-17-2025, 02:51 PM   #8
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If you want to work with the cities that came with the game, I recommend using the World Editor to edit the World_Default that came with game to break the US States and Canadian Provinces into Nations.

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I found the World Editor, so I can edit this file. But is there an efficient way to import the cities found in the world_default file, to this file? I.e. all cities found in NY State (and the rest of the states/provinces) to this file?
BTW - this isn't an historical replay of any kind, it's an attempt to create a LLWS-like league and tournament
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