Official OOTP 22 initial impressions thread!

[RubeBaker]

Best. Version. Yet. The 3D is the best part, but the game overall is AMAZING. I can't wait to play Perfect Team on Friday!

[simonmagnus2006]

Originally Posted by Shoeless' Socks

4. Still tons of things remain the same while they keep pouring time into the graphics for a text/spreadsheet game. I secretly resent that many customers undoubtedly have wanted this but I couldn't care less if they had even added 3D mode, ever.

This hit the nail on the head in my opinion.

[timmermac]

Originally Posted by wallewalls

I haven't looked for new coaches yet, but if this is true, I must say that i agree that is a bad choice by the devs. With the whole expanded coaching staffs, that's even more time that will have to spent doing menial work of looking through hundreds of coaches that would be better spent elsewhere.

Maybe it's not such a high priority for those who just play a single season or whatnot. Doing it once or twice would be fine for the "novelty", but for those of us who love the franchise aspect and advancing so far in the future, this is definitely a negative the way I see it.

Honestly, I've always set hiring coaches to the AI.

[gamefan1978]

Nice new animation after the CF dived and caught the ball he held up his arm after the catch.

[timmermac]

Originally Posted by Hanokh1967

1) Balk, HBP, PB, and WP are as always way to prevalent. 3-3 9th inning. Leadoff hitter HBP, 3 consecutive WP get by Willson Contreras, Cubs lose. 4-1 on the season. There has been a balk in every game, multiple HBP, multiple PB, and multiple WP for both teams every game.

2) Starting pitching stamina is way too low. Looking thru box scores reveals elite pitchers struggling to get to\thru 5 innings. Bauer, Sale, Verlander, Wheeler, etc should be able to pitch more than 4 innings without being exhausted.

3) If I go to Game Settings, League Settings, Stats and AI and put SP stamina from .950 to 1.000 will this help?

4) Also, If I change Balk and WP to 0.001 will that do anything? PB seem to have a floor of 0.050. The game defaults to that if I set it to 0.001.

Change it in the drop down from very low/low to very high.

[Church OOTP]

The game is looking really really good - runs so much faster (both interface and in game 3d) .... simply feels great. A few bugs but everyone knows this will be resolved with a few patches ... best version by far ... congrats!

[R. Hansh]

Anyone else find it here? All I see is a license.xml file...
__________________I have the same problem.

[eas9898]

Originally Posted by wallewalls

I haven't looked for new coaches yet, but if this is true, I must say that i agree that is a bad choice by the devs. With the whole expanded coaching staffs, that's even more time that will have to spent doing menial work of looking through hundreds of coaches that would be better spent elsewhere.

Maybe it's not such a high priority for those who just play a single season or whatnot. Doing it once or twice would be fine for the "novelty", but for those of us who love the franchise aspect and advancing so far in the future, this is definitely a negative the way I see it.

I'm not clear on what the devs are trying to get us to do here. There is a TON of info out there for selecting quality players, but for coaches, it's just supposed to be a random crapshoot? And it's not like we can see their stats later to determine performance.

[touchandgoes]

I have been trying to get the "use expected" part of roster importing to work with individual split ratings for the last few versions of OOTP and I guess it is not working correctly on 22. Unless I'm doing something wrong.
What happens is when I apply the split ratings for hitters and then change "use expected" to a '1', the expected stats import correctly but the split stats are completely different... not proportional I mean.
Does anyone have any experience with the import/export functions and experienced the same thing?

[wallewalls]

Originally Posted by eas9898

I'm not clear on what the devs are trying to get us to do here. There is a TON of info out there for selecting quality players, but for coaches, it's just supposed to be a random crapshoot? And it's not like we can see their stats later to determine performance.

Granted, it is difficult to quantify coaches in real life, and sorting by Dev Influence isn't exactly the most challenging thing to do, but we need some sort of information about coaches.

[wallewalls]

Originally Posted by simonmagnus2006

This hit the nail on the head in my opinion.

Agree

[TheBrewCrew]

Originally Posted by Lukas Berger

To enlarge even further, it completely depends on a great deal of factors.

-The actual ratings in-game, even if you think specific players are 'overrated' or 'underrated'.

-Whether you have scouting on on not (and it's on by default), If it's on, it can distort the ratings beyond what they truly are, devaluing some guys and overvaluing others, which will happen randomly each game.

-The level of trade difficulty you've set.

-The amount of value you have the AI set placing on stats as opposed to ratings.

-The contracts of the players involved and the financial state of the teams involved, which also varies as soon as you've simmed even a day.

This matters a great deal, as it's very likely the AI sees Bauer for example, as a negative value player who is being paid more than he will ever be worth and so is a net negative value to them.

There are likely a lot of real MLB teams that see him this way too, otherwise someone would have outbid the Dodgers for him, if they thought he was actually worth what he is getting paid.

I had to remember my log in information for this comment.

It’s honestly insane you are defending a Betances for Altuve deal straight up on hard difficulty.

[TheBrewCrew]

Originally Posted by ThePride87

The whole Betances vs Bauer/Altuve thing is simply about the AI is way more fiscally responsible than real-life teams that print their own money (i.e. Dodgers). Just looking at it from a raw-talent perspective, of course it would be ridiculous. But the game is looking at the contracts and seeing Bauer as a negative piece of the team. Even if Betances happens to be bad, his contract is a lot easier to stomach, and honestly most RP's are so low-impact on the season (WAR between -0.5 and 0.5), I doubt the AI places much value on RP's at all unless they're at the ends of the talent spectrum.

I can't say I disagree with the AI either. If hypothetically my Tigers had that Bauer contract, I'd be looking to trade his butt too, that's a lot of $ that can be better spent (Scouting/Development/etc).

Just because you don’t like Bauer (I despise him), doesn’t mean it’s a realistic trade. He was signed to big money this offseason. The team he signed with clearly thinks he’s worth it.

This wasn’t a scenario where it’s 3 years down the road and Bauer sucks. The FO is super excited to have him and clearly like his contract.

Absolutely 0 chance that trade would ever, ever happen. Again, maybe if it was 2023 on, not in 2021.

The mental gymnastics needed to defend the trade AI is fun to watch.

[tejdog1]

I understand why this was changed, but the negative number before the expenses portion of the balance sheet under Front Office is throwing me off so much. It wasn't negative in v21.

[boscoJJ]

Don't make Fictional FA,they always **** up their potential in Histrorical Mode

[Goalie39]

Any update on when the new MLB Draft League (and possibly the Appalachian league and the Pioneer League) will be added to OOTP22?



I thought I heard it will be added in a future update. Is that still the plan?

[Matt Arnold]

Originally Posted by Goalie39

Any update on when the new MLB Draft League (and possibly the Appalachian league and the Pioneer League) will be added to OOTP22?



I thought I heard it will be added in a future update. Is that still the plan?

We're not sure yet if or when they would be added. It may come in a patch sometime in the summer, it may take more effort and not come until OOTP23 or later.

[andyhdz]

Originally Posted by TheBrewCrew

The mental gymnastics needed to defend the trade AI is fun to watch.

The truth is the AI takes over teams to start 2021 that they had no hand in building and decides to tinker with the rosters based on what the AI does. People don't like it but the AI has no emotional/human investment like "they are really excited about him" for any of it's players so yeah it will do stuff like that because they are not worried about "how it looks". If you get further into a career play this stuff just doesn't happen after the AI gets it's team in order.

[jbergey22]

Originally Posted by TheBrewCrew

I had to remember my log in information for this dumbass comment.

It’s honestly insane you are defending a Betances for Altuve deal straight up on hard difficulty.

I thought he did a nice job of explaining it.

Maybe, in real life this would never happen because human gm's have bias and probably in this case loyalty would be the bias.

The computer AI would probably look at it like this.

Altuve is making millions, lets just call it 100 million. If the computer values him at 80 million that is a 20 million dollar loss.

If Betances is making 2 million and the computer values him at 1 million. That is a 1 million dollar loss.

So the computer AI sees this as a 19 million dollar win.

I never seen him to to defend this as a trade that would or would not happen in real life. He was just trying to explain how the computer AI works.

[slugga27]

Originally Posted by TheBrewCrew

I had to remember my log in information for this dumbass comment.

It’s honestly insane you are defending a Betances for Altuve deal straight up on hard difficulty.

Let's not start the name calling. Just because you don't agree, doesn't mean that others don't have a point. There are many factors that go into a trade, and Lukas was giving you some of the factors.

The point remains that the AI does not have the same feelings and emotions as humans. That level of technology has not been invented. If you would like, why don't you try to invent it for us?