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Boomcoach 04-05-2024 08:20 AM

My best friend is a Tigers fan, while I am a Reds fan. I would appreciate it if the Mets could play like they did against the Tigers this weekend, not have some sudden renaissance! Any help would be appreciated! :D

Amazin69 04-05-2024 04:16 PM

Well, our lineup begins with batters hitting .050 and .042, respectively. After that, you're on your own!

(McNeil is also hitting .071. But you have to fight to get to him!)

dsvitak 04-05-2024 07:11 PM

Mets have a 10% walk rate. Pretty darned high.

They might be OK..once they start hitting, they SHOULD score some runs.

Westheim 04-06-2024 06:06 AM

The New York Wombles, after surviving Snottavino, had quite the ninth inning. Boom-Boom error, walk, defensive clusterflush, a throw to arguably the wrong base, and a wild pitch. Somehow, they didn't quite manage to blow a 2-run lead. :confused:

Winning streak! I hope the Barves and Philthies don't crap themselves at the thought of the blue and orange steamroller getting them from behind!

Amazin69 04-06-2024 02:41 PM

Has any team ever started 0-5 and won a division? I can't think of one.

Those 1914 "Miracle Braves" started 3-16 before going 91-43 (which was 23-24 to get their bearings, and then a ridiculous 68-19 finish) the rest of the way, but they only were 0-3 out of the box.

History awaits? Perhaps.

Amazin69 04-06-2024 11:42 PM

As long as the Mets stop taking 3-run leads, they'll be golden.

(Why is Lindor trying to cover 2B on a ball hit in the hole, exactly? Did he forget that McNeil was on the field? If Baty had made the play, there might have been a collision with them both trying to take the throw.

How long has Frankie been playing SS, exactly? How many 5-6 putouts has he made in all that time? There's a reason for that, Frankie.)

dsvitak 04-07-2024 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Amazin69 (Post 5096888)
Has any team ever started 0-5 and won a division? I can't think of one.

Those 1914 "Miracle Braves" started 3-16 before going 91-43 (which was 23-24 to get their bearings, and then a ridiculous 68-19 finish) the rest of the way, but they only were 0-3 out of the box.

History awaits? Perhaps.

Bill James stated in one of his older Abstracts, that the teams to watch had a hot start. 6-0 was his key metric. This was a LONG time ago, perhaps 35 years...but at that point, he said a team with that hot of start was almost certain to make the playoffs.

Westheim 04-07-2024 05:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Westheim (Post 5096682)
The New York Wombles, after surviving Snottavino, had quite the ninth inning. Boom-Boom error, walk, defensive clusterflush, a throw to arguably the wrong base, and a wild pitch. Somehow, they didn't quite manage to blow a 2-run lead. :confused:

The New York Trainwrecks, after somehow taking a 3-run lead with an offensive outburst (FIVE runs in TWO innings! :ohmy::ohmy: ) then entered the bottom 8th with a 5-4 lead, no pitchers to cover the distance, no plan, no wit, and a single brain cell shared between all of them. What transpired was a 5-run inning that made me laugh, because this team turned me insane a long time ago.

Candelario walks and is pinch-run for by Bubba Thompson
Yohan Ramirez, a far cry from Johan Santana, balks Thompson to second
Thompson to third and Fraley to first on an uncaught third strike
De la Cruz singles to tie the game, Fraley to third
De la Cruz steals second unmolested
Spencer Steers wallops a 3-run homer
Fairchild reaches on a "single" when Ramirez and Narvaez get into each other's underwear trying to contain his bunt
Starling Marte traps a Stephenson liner for another single
Not-quite-a-Met (and if they had gotten to draft him, they would have traded him for another Hansel Robles equivalent anyway) Jonathan India walks, bags full
Benson K's
CES sac fly to Bader, who manages to hit the rosin bag on the back of the mound on his throw in, much to Pete's befuddlement, and the ball gets away to give the remaining runners an extra base
Remember that pinch-runner? He's batting now. And whiffs, badly.

And then there was the episode where at one point Monday's starter Julio Teheran (:laugh:) was warming up for garbage relief, and the repeated cuts to the clueless visitors' dugout, where they kept going back to the phone, as if the guys behind the fence had somehow found a guy in streetclothes to get the last few outs by now :closedeyes:

Meanwhile, Omar Narvaez, whenever he wasn't an absolute tool behind the plate, had three hits and two RBI, automatically making him the Mets' batting king with a crisp 3-for-10.

Lindor is making vaccuum noises at .032; $341M well spent.

Meeeeeets...!! :laugh::laugh:

Amazin69 04-07-2024 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Westheim (Post 5097178)
The New York Trainwrecks, after somehow taking a 3-run lead with an offensive outburst (FIVE runs in TWO innings! :ohmy::ohmy: ) then entered the bottom 8th with a 5-4 lead, no pitchers to cover the distance, no plan, no wit, and a single brain cell shared between all of them. What transpired was a 5-run inning that made me laugh, because this team turned me insane a long time ago.

Candelario walks and is pinch-run for by Bubba Thompson
Yohan Ramirez, a far cry from Johan Santana, balks Thompson to second
Thompson to third and Fraley to first on an uncaught third strike
De la Cruz singles to tie the game, Fraley to third
De la Cruz steals second unmolested
Spencer Steers wallops a 3-run homer
Fairchild reaches on a "single" when Ramirez and Narvaez get into each other's underwear trying to contain his bunt
Starling Marte traps a Stephenson liner for another single
Not-quite-a-Met (and if they had gotten to draft him, they would have traded him for another Hansel Robles equivalent anyway) Jonathan India walks, bags full
Benson K's
CES sac fly to Bader, who manages to hit the rosin bag on the back of the mound on his throw in, much to Pete's befuddlement, and the ball gets away to give the remaining runners an extra base
Remember that pinch-runner? He's batting now. And whiffs, badly.

And then there was the episode where at one point Monday's starter Julio Teheran (:laugh:) was warming up for garbage relief, and the repeated cuts to the clueless visitors' dugout, where they kept going back to the phone, as if the guys behind the fence had somehow found a guy in streetclothes to get the last few outs by now :closedeyes:

Meanwhile, Omar Narvaez, whenever he wasn't an absolute tool behind the plate, had three hits and two RBI, automatically making him the Mets' batting king with a crisp 3-for-10.

Lindor is making vaccuum noises at .032; $341M well spent.

Meeeeeets...!! :laugh::laugh:

Thank you for recapping that inning; I couldn't bear to do it.

As on Thursday, it should be noted that 2/3 of the 3-run lead had already been frittered away before the final disaster. Creakin' Diekman is already looking like a long-shot to cash in that possible 3-year extension.

(It should be noted that despite our griping [and winter-long predictions of doom], the Mets entered the game leading the NL in pretty much every positive pitching category. The previous failures being on the joke of an offense.

However, if you look up "small sample size" in the dictionary, you will see picture of this pitching staff. I mean, come on.)

Westheim 04-07-2024 04:22 PM

The 1908 Superbas, in the top 2nd, loaded the bases with Marte walking and both Taylor and Squirrel poking a bunt for a single, and nobody out. Of course, the only run they would actually score off that came when Nimmo was hit by a pitch. “Mickey Mantle” Bader and “A Million Bucks for Each Point of Average” Lindor made the cardinal mistake of swinging the sticks, with predictable outcomes, a lineout and a double play grounder, respectively. And that was not the only bases-loaded, less-than-two-out situation in which they scored zilch…

No, dsvitak, I’m not bringing back the Mickey Mantle thing to tick you off. It’s a coping mechanism. Make it so ridiculous you have to laugh about it. Hence, 1908 Superbas, who, according to Wikipedia, …

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set a Major League record which still stands, for the fewest doubles by a team in a season, with only 110.[1] The Superbas hit only .213 as a team, second lowest in the modern era after the 1910 Chicago White Sox. No regulars hit .250, Tim Jordan led the team with a .247 batting average.
I mean, the broadcast started (at least on MLB TV) with a statistic how the Mets led the NL in ERA by three quarters of a run … and yet …! (pulls on his fur)

Of course, clownshoes defense is part of that too. 13 of 37 runs on the team up until Saturday were unearned.

What else. Pete “Oh-for-Cincinnati” makes me sad. -.- That was mean, Gary.

Is there anybody that Brooks Raley can’t start 0-2 against and then run the count full?

And by the way, they won, even if it doesn’t sound like it at all.

Amazin69 04-08-2024 11:24 PM

It should be noted that Almost-Met India one of a very few decent players from that AWFUL 2018 draft. Him and Logan Gilbert, and after that we're down to Nico Hoerner and Seth Beer.

The Mets used the #6 pick (that they didn't get to grab India with) to take Jarred Kelenic, whom I think we can classify as a bust by now. Getting Edlose for him is almost looking like a good deal, shockingly. Apologies, Brodie von Hunchback!

dsvitak 04-08-2024 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Westheim (Post 5097428)
The 1908 Superbas, in the top 2nd, loaded the bases with Marte walking and both Taylor and Squirrel poking a bunt for a single, and nobody out. Of course, the only run they would actually score off that came when Nimmo was hit by a pitch. “Mickey Mantle” Bader and “A Million Bucks for Each Point of Average” Lindor made the cardinal mistake of swinging the sticks, with predictable outcomes, a lineout and a double play grounder, respectively. And that was not the only bases-loaded, less-than-two-out situation in which they scored zilch…

No, dsvitak, I’m not bringing back the Mickey Mantle thing to tick you off. It’s a coping mechanism. Make it so ridiculous you have to laugh about it. Hence, 1908 Superbas, who, according to Wikipedia, …



I mean, the broadcast started (at least on MLB TV) with a statistic how the Mets led the NL in ERA by three quarters of a run … and yet …! (pulls on his fur)

Of course, clownshoes defense is part of that too. 13 of 37 runs on the team up until Saturday were unearned.

What else. Pete “Oh-for-Cincinnati” makes me sad. -.- That was mean, Gary.

Is there anybody that Brooks Raley can’t start 0-2 against and then run the count full?

And by the way, they won, even if it doesn’t sound like it at all.

I saw Mickey Mantle play a lot. And Willie Mays, and Stan Musial.

Bader's game DOES remind me of Mantle, in the way he runs, fields, and throws. Tremendous athleticism.

Clearly, the comparison doesn't translate into plate production. That's OK.

FWIW, I have yet to see any player that reminds me of Mays. He was a true unicorn.

Westheim 04-09-2024 01:21 AM

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Mets beat Barves, what? Am I still dreaming?

Can Nimmo hit two homers every day now? And can someone please resuscitate Pete? ...who must be 0-17 or something and looks a tinge of blue around the lips. :crying::crying:

Also, we knew about Julio Teheran, who was not the savior we were looking for, but (scans box score) who the heck is "Sulser"? It's Game TEN of the year! Isn't it a little early to fall back on "who?" relievers...? :(

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Originally Posted by Amazin69 (Post 5098108)
It should be noted that Almost-Met India one of a very few decent players from that AWFUL 2018 draft. Him and Logan Gilbert,

(cringes)

Nothing against Logan G., but when I hear G., I now mentally immediately flip to Drew G., certified college **** (bad enough that even *I* took notice, and I don't care one lick for university kerfuffle), and who the Mets were smart enough to eventually trade for... :rolleyes::rolleyes:

That guy. That "Did you just *dare* to call a strike on me!? When my father hears about this ...!!" guy!

THAT GUY.

Amazin69 04-09-2024 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Westheim (Post 5098127)
Also, we knew about Julio Teheran, who was not the savior we were looking for, but (scans box score) who the heck is "Sulser"? It's Game TEN of the year! Isn't it a little early to fall back on "who?" relievers...? :(

When Megill first went down with something in his arm (ineptitude, mayhap?), Gary Cohen noted that because MLB rules now prohibit the immediate recall of folks sent to Syracuse, the team might be in a pickle for one game in Atlanta, since Butto and Your Beloved Joey Lucchesi, having been sent to Onandoga County at the end of training camp, were under a 15-game ban. (Butto got to make the start against Detroit as an emergency call-up due to weather.) Gary then thought, pre-Teheran signing, that the start might be made by somebody I had never heard of, such as Christian Scott, who sounds like a forgotten Prime Minister from one of the former Dominions. Seriously, who?

Amazin69 04-09-2024 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by dsvitak (Post 5098110)
I saw Mickey Mantle play a lot. And Willie Mays, and Stan Musial.

Bader's game DOES remind me of Mantle, in the way he runs, fields, and throws. Tremendous athleticism.

Clearly, the comparison doesn't translate into plate production. That's OK.

FWIW, I have yet to see any player that reminds me of Mays. He was a true unicorn.

Interesting. As you discussed possible comps for the M&M boys, but recalled seeing three legends, that begs the question…who reminds you of Stash the most?

Westheim 04-09-2024 02:08 PM

Christian Scott is the best that we have for an SP prospect in the high minors. He's also gonna turn 25 this year, so that's that. His AAA debut with 9 K was noted on one of the SNY broadcasts last week.

Pelican 04-09-2024 02:26 PM

[QUOTE/] And nice to see that Rhys Hopkins went to the Chase Utley Sliding School. You can take the d-bag out of Philly, but you can't take Philly out of the d-bag, it seems.[/QUOTE]

Also known as the Ty Cobb School of Sliding. Or Pete Rose. Jackie Robinson. Willie Mays. Or basically any hard-nosed ballplayer prior to MLB adopting tee-ball rules. I suspect Hoskins [note correct spelling] would appreciate the reference. D-bag meaning dirtbag, of course. ;)

Amazin69 04-09-2024 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Amazin69 (Post 5095991)
Pete (who hasn't been Kingman this season) covers a multitude of sins.

(Now if only they can sign him…)

Naturally, the moment I type that, our beloved Polar Vortex goes into a deep freeze that plummets him to sub-Sky King levels (.167, currently). My bad!

Comparisons to Brian Kingman on hold until Boy Genius Mendoza actually has Pete take the mound. Which may be any day now, given that Baseball's Best Pitching Staff (hey, I'll say it while I can!) is currently held together with the mystery paste Steve Gelbs found in that "food" vending machine on Sunday.

(Gary says that angry Cincinnati keep sending him Skyline Chili™ gear, to protest his dissing of the "meat" that made Porkopolis famous. ["Porkopolis" is an actual 19th-Century nickname for the Queen City, per The Bill James Historical Baseball Abstract.] But why hasn't Graeter's Ice Cream been sending pints to the booth, to repay Gary for all the good things he has said about them? Not so Graet form, fellas.)

Amazin69 04-09-2024 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Pelican (Post 5098294)
[QUOTE/] I suspect Hoskins [note correct spelling]

Hmm, I certainly know Hoskins's correct name. I should hope that my malfunctioning fingers (the one I use for "l" "o" and "p" has nerve damage) aren't mal-ing on their own, but I don't think that this board has Auto-"correct".

Perhaps I left the post unposted long enough for the computer to work said magic? Or perhaps it really is my decaying neurons Hop-ing to the front, after all.

Anyhow, apologies to Mr. Hoskins, Johns Hopkins University (my brother is a proud graduate, which is how we were at Memorial Stadium one day in 1987 when the Indians wheeled out Lefty and Knucksie to start a double-header, to perhaps predictable results), the Mark Hopkins Hotels, Nicky Hopkins on the piano (check out his work in Quicksilver Messenger Service), Elsa Hosk, and anyone elsa who feels offended. Whoopsie! (With a "p".)

Westheim 04-10-2024 12:58 AM

(looks up Dedniel Nunez)

Mets lost, but at least Pete got hold of a 3-run homer, and thus the first bloody thing since Thursday. :closedeyes:


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