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Kris Jardine 12-07-2018 12:56 PM

The security checks are used to prevent people from exploiting the game. Its unfortunate that we need to have them there, but they are necessary.

Thalion 12-07-2018 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Markus Heinsohn (Post 4401605)
This only happens when your team fails our safety checks for ensuring it is set up in a proper manner. So, if you have position players in your pitching staff who can't pitch, or incomplete lineups or an incomplete pitching rotation etc. the AI is forced on your team. Make sure this team is set up properly, with a 4 or 5 man rotation out of pitchers, a proper bullpen and proper lineups.

How many pitchers do you need in the bullpen?

I'm running with 6 right now and everything is fine. Thinking of dropping down to 5. Most of the bullpen are starters so have lots of stamina.

Note: Have a 5 man starting rotation.

genuvar 12-07-2018 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Kris Jardine (Post 4402185)
The security checks are used to prevent people from exploiting the game. Its unfortunate that we need to have them there, but they are necessary.

I understand that, though I dont know what exploits people found during beta that you guys are preventing, but there must be a way to prevent those while still allowing people the freedom to design a team the way they want.

Being forced to have a 4-5 man rotation and 5 relievers (1 closer, 2 setup, 2 MR) (I think that was what the game was doing) doesnt seem to be neccessary. If you are going to force people to have these requirements it probably should have been stated somewhere instead of us waking up in the morning to find things changed suddenly.

I'm only 1 out of however many users you have registered now but my real enjoyment was creating a dead ball era esque team and competing against all these modern era team styles and players. The change to using this safety check has ruined that and makes me want to chalk everything I've spent and invested into this game mode as a loss and move on.

Matt Arnold 12-07-2018 01:14 PM

FYI you need at least 20 guys on the active roster, 4 starters, 7 guys in each lineup, and 4 relievers (or 4 guys with reliever roles set). Markus may decide to change those limits in the future, but especially with the talent of teams, less than that won't work, even if all your starters have max stamina.

genuvar 12-07-2018 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt Arnold (Post 4402194)
FYI you need at least 20 guys on the active roster, 4 starters, 7 guys in each lineup, and 4 relievers (or 4 guys with reliever roles set). Markus may decide to change those limits in the future, but especially with the talent of teams, less than that won't work, even if all your starters have max stamina.

This needed to be stated when the change was made because now I know how to fix the issue.

genuvar 12-07-2018 01:34 PM

I said this in discord but wanted to repeat it here. Please update the FAQ with this information or post it somewhere where it is able to be seen by all (not everyone is going to browse the bug threads). I am probably not the only one that has had this issue and there will probably be more in the future that will need to know.

BoofBonser26 12-07-2018 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt Arnold (Post 4402194)
FYI you need at least 20 guys on the active roster, 4 starters, 7 guys in each lineup, and 4 relievers (or 4 guys with reliever roles set). Markus may decide to change those limits in the future, but especially with the talent of teams, less than that won't work, even if all your starters have max stamina.

Thank you very much for stating this clearly. I'd humbly suggest that this be added to the FAQ, and if these limits are adjusted in the future (and I believe they need to be to allow deadball era players, who are not exploiting the game, to have fun), an announcement is made. If this restrictions must be, so be it, but it'll go down a lot smoother with the community if it's not a change made in secret where we can't tell if it's a bug or not.

lboston1 12-08-2018 03:31 AM

I've had the same lineup the whole time, with no gaps in relievers or roles not set, and this has happened to me. I've come back with some of my best performing players on 14 day cooldown. Very frustrating as it made my team, who was already on a terrible run going from 1st (at .600) in the division to 2nd, to an even worse run with barely scratching .500 and falling into 3rd place as it happened while I was away for the day.

genuvar 12-08-2018 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Matt Arnold (Post 4402194)
FYI you need at least 20 guys on the active roster, 4 starters, 7 guys in each lineup, and 4 relievers (or 4 guys with reliever roles set). Markus may decide to change those limits in the future, but especially with the talent of teams, less than that won't work, even if all your starters have max stamina.

Matt or Markus is there anything else besides 4 guys with relievers roles set? My pitching staff got moved around again to closer, 2 SU, and it removed the starters I also had set to play in relief. Its a 5 man rotation so there are enough starters.

genuvar 12-08-2018 08:36 AM

It also reorganized my lineups again even though those are very normal.

cfagyal 12-08-2018 05:58 PM

I'm having the same issue and I've always had a 5 man rotation, 6 relievers, fully set lineups vs left and right... the last 2 sims i've tried to add some new players (just upgrading less talented players with more talented ones), and its reset my changes both times, and actually reduced my team from a full 25 man roster down to 23. It put a few of the 80+ gold players I put into my team on my inactive list even. There is no logical explanation for this.

Edit: My changes were saved this latest sim. All I did differently was close out of PT to force a save, and then log out and log back in.

sharknut 12-08-2018 10:33 PM

The game is not playing the lineup I select. Both the regular lineup and the 7 day lineups are being ignored. I have 5 SP, 7RP, 5IF. 2C and 6OF and 7 reserve players.

beatle 12-09-2018 04:43 PM

Security checks on line-up changes, my eye- BS, and my roster was just fine. The AI make changes when it wants to. I spent money on this game, PT, but no more! I am done with further purchases now and in the future! Live and learn No control, Humans first! The AI needs the Terminator.

By the way the program still crashes at times in the auction section. And how come I get bid errors every now and them. That must be a security check too! LOL

Markus Heinsohn 12-10-2018 04:50 AM

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Originally Posted by beatle (Post 4403192)
Security checks on line-up changes, my eye- BS, and my roster was just fine. The AI make changes when it wants to. I spent money on this game, PT, but no more! I am done with further purchases now and in the future! Live and learn No control, Humans first! The AI needs the Terminator.

By the way the program still crashes at times in the auction section. And how come I get bid errors every now and them. That must be a security check too! LOL

Make sure you update to the latest version, and check your AI settings in the profile & settings tab of the PT home screen. If the settings are fine, the AI will not touch your team unless it absolutely has to.

beatle 12-10-2018 05:39 PM

No Markus, Your Game has a problem and your refuse to listen! I am updated and my settings are fine. For example, I have a batter set to hit 7th, hitting 200, and the AI puts him at 4th, maybe because of ratings! The hitter who should hit 4th, hitting over 300, gets moved down to 7th,hitting. this happen every now and then causes potential a loss. The higher rated player is not as good, performance wise, as the lower rated player which is why I bat him 4th. But the AI thinks it knows better without consulting stats even. Note this happened last season too but not during beta. You should listen to people rather than hold on to perceptions of what should be rather than what is happening; that is not reality.

Houston we have a problem! LOL

sharkybc 12-10-2018 07:58 PM

I have noticed when a guy is tired and your backup replaces him for the next game, the AI will alter the lineup. Sometimes drastically. I have all my reserves to play "only when starter is tired" but if you have some backups that are set to play "every 3rd start" or something, then the AI may be altering the lineups on those days as well. I don't know if this was intended by the developers, but it for sure happens.

Socali 12-10-2018 10:00 PM

I just got home and all kinds of roster moves have been made! My team had everything set up properly as it has since beta. Something is not right.

After seeing this mess, I downloaded and installed latest version. I'll have to wait for a couple of my starters to finish time after being put on reserve. Eventually the team will be set back up as it was before, there was nothing wrong with it. We will see what happens. :unsure:

Socali 12-10-2018 10:49 PM

After going through and reading everything...this is just insane. My team WAS fine! 5 man starting rotation (ALL pitchers)...7 relievers (ALL pitchers) with roles SPECIFIED...both lineups FILLED with positions players at their PROPER positions. THIS is BS.


Now I have ONE backup shortstop that was EXHAUSTED because my starter was put on reserve!


Don't tell me I had something funky with my team when I didn't!

Message Addendum (next day): ok, that really happened. There was nothing wrong with my roster. At first I thought someone hacked my account, so I changed my password, but I realized if that happened they would have done far worse. Here is my question, so if AI took control of my team why did it leave me with ONE shortstop?

Sorry, for venting as I did last night but I was really upset because I can’t check my team throughout the day. There is a bug somewhere here, my team was very appropriately set up.

Orcin 12-11-2018 09:18 AM

Do you leave the game open/running when you are not actively playing?

Are you sure roster control is set to you?

Socali 12-11-2018 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Orcin (Post 4404074)
Do you leave the game open/running when you are not actively playing?

Are you sure roster control is set to you?

1. No.
2. Always has been and one of first settings I did before first beta season. I checked after coming upon this mess and confirmed that it still was.

Thanks for trying to help.


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