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Westheim 03-19-2019 09:25 AM

We might be old farts*, but they still can't leave us behind here. We still got firm grip on our wallets!

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*I'm 32.

Orcin 03-19-2019 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by zrog2000 (Post 4454734)
Man, you guys need to get with the times. Message boards will die someday and you'll have to move on or be left behind. Usually, twitter is the main form of communication for companies and pretty much never message boards. Just click on a link and read, it's not that hard. Takes about 10 minutes to get used to discord. I'm old too.


These forums have been the company's primary means of communication with its customers for most of its existence. The customer support function is located here, not on Discord. Discord and Twitter are being used to promote the game, which is great, but important customer support information should be posted here.

HRBaker 03-19-2019 10:03 AM

I don't think it's unreasonable to ask the Devs to keep this board up to date - but I also think they realize they dropped the ball on this one. That said, however, when your trying to keep up with the problem, communication isn't the first thing on your mind.

chazzycat 03-19-2019 10:07 AM

Discord isn't a social media marketing thing. It's just a communication tool and is super easy to use. More like Slack than twitter.

Orcin 03-19-2019 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by chazzycat (Post 4454801)
Discord isn't a social media marketing thing. It's just a communication tool and is super easy to use. More like Slack than twitter.

Ok. That's irrelevant to the point of the discussion. Customer support information should be shared here.

Are you saying that customer support information should NOT be shared here? Are you saying that it should only be shared on Discord? If not, then we all agree.

Thalion 03-19-2019 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Orcin (Post 4454778)
These forums have been the company's primary means of communication with its customers for most of its existence. The customer support function is located here, not on Discord. Discord and Twitter are being used to promote the game, which is great, but important customer support information should be posted here.


They also have Customer Support staff on Discord. As I type this, there are currently a moderator and 2 OOTP non developer staff people online.

Orcin 03-19-2019 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Thalion (Post 4454857)
They also have Customer Support staff on Discord. As I type this, there are currently a moderator and 2 OOTP non developer staff people online.

I have no problem with that. You evade the point. Are you saying that the information should ONLY be shared on Discord? Are you saying that the information should NOT be shared here? Sharing the same information on all platforms, including Discord, at relatively the same time is a perfect solution.

chazzycat 03-19-2019 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Orcin (Post 4454847)
Ok. That's irrelevant to the point of the discussion. Customer support information should be shared here.

Are you saying that customer support information should NOT be shared here? Are you saying that it should only be shared on Discord? If not, then we all agree.

I was mainly just addressing where you said "they are promoting the game on Discord". Personally I am not a fan of social media either, so I thought it might be worth mentioning, that's not what Discord is. Anyways. Wasn't expecting such hostility...gonna ignore this thread now. Carry on.

Orcin 03-19-2019 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by chazzycat (Post 4454963)
I was mainly just addressing where you said "they are promoting the game on Discord". Personally I am not a fan of social media either, so I thought it might be worth mentioning, that's not what Discord is. Anyways. Wasn't expecting such hostility...gonna ignore this thread now. Carry on.

I don't see anything hostile about my reply to you. I asked you to clarify your point because I did not understand how it was relevant.


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Originally Posted by chazzycat (Post 4454963)
I was mainly just addressing where you said "they are promoting the game on Discord".

My post did not say anything about Discord being social media or not.

chazzycat 03-19-2019 12:24 PM

replying "that's irrelevant to the discussion" and then putting words in my mouth which I did not say, when I was just trying to help you, is the part that came across as hostile.

chazzycat 03-19-2019 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Orcin (Post 4454966)
My post did not say anything about Discord being social media or not.

Sorry for misinterpreting then. I was just trying to say there's no reason not to use Discord. It's a good tool, not a marketing platform. I thought maybe that was the reason you didn't want to use it. Guess I was mistaken. Sorry about that.

Thalion 03-19-2019 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Orcin (Post 4454948)
I have no problem with that. You evade the point. Are you saying that the information should ONLY be shared on Discord? Are you saying that the information should NOT be shared here? Sharing the same information on all platforms, including Discord, at relatively the same time is a perfect solution.


I'm not evading anything. I didn't say that it shouldn't be shared here. I'm just pointing out that this isn't THE customer support site for the game.


I've no skin in this game. Seriously, if you have a beef with this, take it up with Markus. My GUESS (note guess means that I have no idea for sure) is that, if anything, they staff Discord rather than the forums is because they feel they can reach a wider audience there at any moment in time.

Orcin 03-19-2019 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by chazzycat (Post 4454971)
replying "that's irrelevant to the discussion" and then putting words in my mouth which I did not say, when I was just trying to help you, is the part that came across as hostile.

Ok, fair enough. Thanks for clarifying that.

zrog2000 03-19-2019 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Orcin (Post 4454948)
I have no problem with that. You evade the point. Are you saying that the information should ONLY be shared on Discord? Are you saying that the information should NOT be shared here? Sharing the same information on all platforms, including Discord, at relatively the same time is a perfect solution.

Click on the damn discord link or forever be mocked for being Clint Eastwood's character in Gran Turino! :laugh:

Matt Arnold 03-19-2019 01:40 PM

Important information should be shared in both places. We care about both communities, just takes us all a little bit to adjust to making sure stuff goes out in both places (not to mention facebook, twitter, etc...)

Findest2001 03-19-2019 04:59 PM

You guys bicker all you want ;) Meanwhile, I can't login still...an entire day later.

Findest2001 03-19-2019 08:58 PM

No joke I still cannot log in to my silver team. I can get into my bronze team fine, but it's been 24 hours since I've been able to log into PT for my main team.

CORRECTION: It's down for both my teams again. Tried restarting comp, restarting OOTP, logging in and logging out...

Can't get into either now.

humboldt1498 03-19-2019 09:04 PM

Looks like this just went down for me again too

Izz 03-19-2019 09:04 PM

Yep, also can't get in again. P401.

Dunzie 03-19-2019 09:13 PM

Ditto P403.

Good sign it's time for bed.

daveh2018 03-19-2019 09:29 PM

Down for Diamond 396 as well. Last time I tried was about 25-26 hours ago.

Same for Silver 261 and Gold 372 - did not try those last night.

Main game screen is all messed up as well - see photo below
https://i.imgur.com/3N88fUm.jpg

For reference, this was from a fresh restart of the OOTP game via Steam.

thecjm 03-19-2019 10:02 PM

Couldn't log in last night Still can't log in to G307 today. At least I'm still building up PP's while I can't log in. I'm going to get a diamond card of the AH by the time I can actually log in.

fwkeith 03-19-2019 10:26 PM

Haven't been able to login since earlier in the afternoon....344 Silver

5rings 03-19-2019 10:33 PM

Is it all Perfect games? I guess I'm glad I didn't buy the new one

waittilnextyear 03-19-2019 10:34 PM

Was having trouble getting into PT, but just got back into S294.

Izz 03-19-2019 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by 5rings (Post 4455542)
Is it all Perfect games? I guess I'm glad I didn't buy the new one

PT2/OOTP20 is working fine

Janks 03-19-2019 10:35 PM

I'm back into G373

Markus Heinsohn 03-19-2019 10:50 PM

Hmmm... it seems one simulation server had trouble, but that should not cause issues with the login. Is this now working for everybody? Maybe our server provider has a network outage. Things like this sometimes happen and are out of our control unfortunately. Usually this does not last long since they have 24-hour tech guys working, but every once in a while it's something serious and it takes them a while to fix it (like that one instance someone cut a huge fibre cable and the whole area went offline where the server farm is, close to St. Louis).

pappyzan 03-20-2019 08:05 AM

Dunno when this was resolved overnight, but P411 is working now. Thanks guys

Josquin 03-20-2019 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Markus Heinsohn (Post 4455555)
Hmmm... it seems one simulation server had trouble, but that should not cause issues with the login. Is this now working for everybody? Maybe our server provider has a network outage. Things like this sometimes happen and are out of our control unfortunately. Usually this does not last long since they have 24-hour tech guys working, but every once in a while it's something serious and it takes them a while to fix it (like that one instance someone cut a huge fibre cable and the whole area went offline where the server farm is, close to St. Louis).

I can log in fine to my Silver league team, but the P.413 perfect league server is constantly returning this error message (same as last night):

Andreas Raht 03-21-2019 02:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Josquin (Post 4456243)
I can log in fine to my Silver league team, but the P.413 perfect league server is constantly returning this error message (same as last night):

Can you PM me your PT user name and team name please?


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