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Lukas Berger 04-21-2014 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Habsfan18 (Post 3679765)
Any idea of the ETA for patch 2? Just wondering if I should start my dynasty now, or wait for this patch. Not sure if it's a big enough problem to hold off on starting.

Thanks!

No clue. I'd guess early next week.

haveband 04-21-2014 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Habsfan18 (Post 3679765)
Any idea of the ETA for patch 2? Just wondering if I should start my dynasty now, or wait for this patch. Not sure if it's a big enough problem to hold off on starting.

Thanks!

Take a look at your favorite team and inspect their minors. I can say up to this point that with the OD rosters you have, maybe 8 teams had been corrected, whereas now I have finished about 16 or 17. I personally would just kinda play around with all the features and maybe start a game or two for now. But as far as the long term career, I would wait a til the next patch. By then I will have been done with all the teams and gone through them possibly a second to fix things I didn't like.

If you're into that sort of thing, feel free to give the international leagues a test run. See how stats and such look.

Lukas Berger 04-21-2014 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by haveband (Post 3679803)
Take a look at your favorite team and inspect their minors. I can say up to this point that with the OD rosters you have, maybe 8 teams had been corrected, whereas now I have finished about 16 or 17. I personally would just kinda play around with all the features and maybe start a game or two for now. But as far as the long term career, I would wait a til the next patch. By then I will have been done with all the teams and gone through them possibly a second to fix things I didn't like.

I'm really happy you're doing that this year:flowers: It's a real pain in the butt to do, drove me crazy when I did it last year. It's much appreciated!

PsychoBulk 04-21-2014 05:46 PM

You have the Tigers Corey Knebel in as Cory, should be Corey.

Incredibly minor i know but every little helps!

Habsfan18 04-21-2014 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by haveband (Post 3679803)
Take a look at your favorite team and inspect their minors. I can say up to this point that with the OD rosters you have, maybe 8 teams had been corrected, whereas now I have finished about 16 or 17. I personally would just kinda play around with all the features and maybe start a game or two for now. But as far as the long term career, I would wait a til the next patch. By then I will have been done with all the teams and gone through them possibly a second to fix things I didn't like.

If you're into that sort of thing, feel free to give the international leagues a test run. See how stats and such look.

Thanks for the response. I was under the impression that it was just a 2014 roster problem, but it appears it's actually a AI-related game problem?

In my file from OOTP14 that I transferred over, I simmed a few days and a ton of my pitchers were promoted and demoted. Many SP turned into MR, and in many cases it made no sense. My AA affiliate just randomly decided in June to promote an entirely new 5-man rotation from my other affiliates, even though they were leading their division in the standings.

So maybe this is a game related bug? Should I stop playing my old file until the patch?

Lukas Berger 04-21-2014 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Habsfan18 (Post 3679961)
Thanks for the response. I was under the impression that it was just a 2014 roster problem, but it appears it's actually a AI-related game problem?

In my file from OOTP14 that I transferred over, I simmed a few days and a ton of my pitchers were promoted and demoted. Many SP turned into MR, and in many cases it made no sense. My AA affiliate just randomly decided in June to promote an entirely new 5-man rotation from my other affiliates, even though they were leading their division in the standings.

So maybe this is a game related bug? Should I stop playing my old file until the patch?

It's not really a bug. It's just the ai being the ai plus a roster issue in that we don't have everyone's current ratings right for the level they're actually playing at. What haveband's doing with the rosters to fix that will help with this a great deal.

YanksFan 04-21-2014 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by lukasberger (Post 3679620)
Can you show me a screenshot?

When starting up an MLB-setup/fictional player league there are a few minor league affilliate errors plus the ones he mentioned. Probably the wrong thread for him to have posted this in and also maybe the discrepency were done on purpose for whatever reason because it was the same way last year.

Lukas Berger 04-21-2014 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by YanksFan (Post 3679981)
When starting up an MLB-setup/fictional player league there are a few minor league affilliate errors plus the ones he mentioned. Probably the wrong thread for him to have posted this in and also maybe the discrepency were done on purpose for whatever reason because it was the same way last year.

Oh, fictional! I see. Yeah, might want to report that in the bug thread. You're right, it's not really anything for us.

CTSoxFan 04-21-2014 07:35 PM

Two Cuban players who defected should be free agents.

Rusney Castillo (Top Cuban center fielder Rusney Castillo defects | HardballTalk) is still on the roster of Ciego de Avila. He hasn't signed with a MLB team because he is still establishing residency in the US, but is projected to join a team this year.

Odrisamer Despaigne is retired in the game, but is in a similar situation. He was reported to be close to signing with the Padres, but hasn't done so yet. Padres nearing deal with pitcher Odrisamer Despaigne - MLB Daily Dish

Doc_Brown 04-21-2014 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by CTSoxFan (Post 3680027)
Two Cuban players who defected should be free agents.

Rusney Castillo (Top Cuban center fielder Rusney Castillo defects | HardballTalk) is still on the roster of Ciego de Avila. He hasn't signed with a MLB team because he is still establishing residency in the US, but is projected to join a team this year.

Odrisamer Despaigne is retired in the game, but is in a similar situation. He was reported to be close to signing with the Padres, but hasn't done so yet. Padres nearing deal with pitcher Odrisamer Despaigne - MLB Daily Dish



Thanks for that. Will update the DB.

Lukas Berger 04-21-2014 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by CTSoxFan (Post 3680027)
Two Cuban players who defected should be free agents.

Rusney Castillo (Top Cuban center fielder Rusney Castillo defects | HardballTalk) is still on the roster of Ciego de Avila. He hasn't signed with a MLB team because he is still establishing residency in the US, but is projected to join a team this year.

Odrisamer Despaigne is retired in the game, but is in a similar situation. He was reported to be close to signing with the Padres, but hasn't done so yet. Padres nearing deal with pitcher Odrisamer Despaigne - MLB Daily Dish

Thanks. Despaigne shouldn't be retired. Not sure how that happened:confused: And Castillo was an oversight on my part. Fixed both.

Lukas Berger 04-21-2014 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by lukasberger (Post 3680033)
Thanks. Despaigne shouldn't be retired. Not sure how that happened:confused: And Castillo was an oversight on my part. Fixed both.

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Originally Posted by Doc_Brown (Post 3680032)
Thanks for that. Will update the DB.

Actually Doc fixed both!

Who's slow now? Guess it's me:laugh:

Doc_Brown 04-21-2014 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by lukasberger (Post 3680037)
Actually Doc fixed both!

Who's slow now? Guess it's me:laugh:



I'll let you off, you're still grieving over Ike :p

CTSoxFan 04-21-2014 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by lukasberger (Post 3680033)
Thanks. Despaigne shouldn't be retired. Not sure how that happened:confused: And Castillo was an oversight on my part. Fixed both.

Great.

Another guy I just noticed is randomly retired is Tyler Beede from Vandy, who should be in the draft class.

Do you guys know of any way to add him to the draft class in the game I've already started, or will I just have to unretire him and add him to a team through the player editor?

haveband 04-21-2014 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by CTSoxFan (Post 3680081)
Great.

Another guy I just noticed is randomly retired is Tyler Beede from Vandy, who should be in the draft class.

Do you guys know of any way to add him to the draft class in the game I've already started, or will I just have to unretire him and add him to a team through the player editor?


Weird... I unretired him on Saturday when I found that error. Should have been a part of update Monday, unless you pre-ordered and started your game this weekend.

mgom27 04-21-2014 08:51 PM

Retired people are missing if they were drafted by a team and signed.

CTSoxFan 04-21-2014 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by haveband (Post 3680088)
Weird... I unretired him on Saturday when I found that error. Should have been a part of update Monday, unless you pre-ordered and started your game this weekend.

I started a new game on 15.1.3 and he was retired. I created a new player with the same ratings, etc. and made him draft eligible as a fix for this game.

Lukas Berger 04-21-2014 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by CTSoxFan (Post 3680112)
I started a new game on 15.1.3 and he was retired. I created a new player with the same ratings, etc. and made him draft eligible as a fix for this game.

He's not retired in our files. haveband did fix it earlier. Maybe the fix didn't make it into 15.1.3, though it should have?

Anyway he should be ok going forward. Sorry about that.

stevens84 04-21-2014 09:18 PM

Phillies MR Luis A. Garcia is missing his 2013 ML stats, it has his A, AA, and AAA stats from 2013, but doesn't include the 17 games or so in the Majors.

His service time is accurate though somehow?

Kirschwasser 04-22-2014 12:07 AM

Hyun-Jin Ryu from the Dodgers is set as a left-handed batter even though he bats from the right side.

Lukas Berger 04-22-2014 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Kirschwasser (Post 3680264)
Hyun-Jin Ryu from the Dodgers is set as a left-handed batter even though he bats from the right side.

I know I fixed that last year. Weird that it reset somehow:confused:

Thanks, though!

Rebington 04-22-2014 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Rebington (Post 3678547)
Yes he did and then they released him on 3/26/14... signed to a min. league contract with the A's during Spring training.


Oakland Athletics | Cot's Baseball Contracts

Kind of unlikely that Beane would sign 'Country' Joe Blanton on a $7m contract to sit in AAA!?!!


did this one get changed? carrying a $7.5m contract when it should be minor league is a big deal for a small market team.

nutt 04-22-2014 01:19 AM

I haven't had the time to look while digging, but is Tracy McGrady a free agent in the game? :)

Lukas Berger 04-22-2014 01:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Rebington (Post 3680298)
did this one get changed? carrying a $7.5m contract when it should be minor league is a big deal for a small market team.

It's fixed!

Lukas Berger 04-22-2014 01:57 AM

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Originally Posted by nutt (Post 3680315)
I haven't had the time to look while digging, but is Tracy McGrady a free agent in the game? :)

We thought about adding him but we didn't.

misterblonde3 04-22-2014 02:24 AM

I have a couple small problems with ratings that I noticed. One is that I find it very wrong that Manny Machado for the Orioles is only a 3.5 star potential rating. He was on pace to break the doubles record last year and had one of the best defensive seasons ever. He has every bit as much potential as Harper does. And I'm not a biased Oriole fan or anything, I just thought that was pretty far off. Also, Markakis has a 3 speed rating. He is currently the leadoff hitter in real life, so I find 3 to be pretty darn low.

bwburke94 04-22-2014 02:32 AM

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Originally Posted by misterblonde3 (Post 3680345)
I have a couple small problems with ratings that I noticed. One is that I find it very wrong that Manny Machado for the Orioles is only a 3.5 star potential rating. He was on pace to break the doubles record last year and had one of the best defensive seasons ever. He has every bit as much potential as Harper does. And I'm not a biased Oriole fan or anything, I just thought that was pretty far off. Also, Markakis has a 3 speed rating. He is currently the leadoff hitter in real life, so I find 3 to be pretty darn low.

What's your scouting accuracy?

dodger300 04-22-2014 02:49 AM

I think Hyun-Jin Ryu hold rating is to low. In my game he is rated 110 on scale of 1-250. In 192 innings he gave up 1 sb on 3 attempts. If you change rating could let me know what it is, not starting my league over. Thanks for all the hard work you guys do with ratings, you guys do a great job.

mdtwnkfey 04-22-2014 10:10 AM

The ballparks are incorrect for a number of minor league teams:

El Paso (AAA)
GCL Rays, GCL Astros (R)
AZL Cubs, AZL Dodgers, AZL White Sox, AZL Diamondbacks, AZL Reds, AZL Indians (R, all new stadiums within the last several years)

I remember having to fix these last year too. There may be more. In addition, playoff formats for several minor leagues are wrong, including the International League, Texas League, Southern League, and a few others. Almost all minor leagues that don't do split-season aren't correct.

The quickstart format I'm working on has all these fixed (or as close as one can get given the available settings), which I'll post online sometime soon.

PsychoBulk 04-22-2014 10:20 AM

Joe Nathans contract is slightly wrong, you have it starting 2013 and no option.

Should be starting 2014, $9m, 2015 $10m and 2016 club option for $10m with a $1m buyout.

Doc_Brown 04-22-2014 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by PsychoBulk (Post 3680525)
Joe Nathans contract is slightly wrong, you have it starting 2013 and no option.

Should be starting 2014, $9m, 2015 $10m and 2016 club option for $10m with a $1m buyout.


Updated. Thanks for that.

Lukas Berger 04-22-2014 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by misterblonde3 (Post 3680345)
I have a couple small problems with ratings that I noticed. One is that I find it very wrong that Manny Machado for the Orioles is only a 3.5 star potential rating. He was on pace to break the doubles record last year and had one of the best defensive seasons ever. He has every bit as much potential as Harper does. And I'm not a biased Oriole fan or anything, I just thought that was pretty far off. Also, Markakis has a 3 speed rating. He is currently the leadoff hitter in real life, so I find 3 to be pretty darn low.

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Originally Posted by bwburke94 (Post 3680351)
What's your scouting accuracy?

As bwburke suggests the issue is likely that you have an inaccurate scouting report. Machado is absolutely a 5.0 star potential guy in the roster set.

As for Markakis, there was a typo and so his speed was 23 instead of 123. Thanks for pointing this out, it's fixed now!

Lukas Berger 04-22-2014 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by dodger300 (Post 3680356)
I think Hyun-Jin Ryu hold rating is to low. In my game he is rated 110 on scale of 1-250. In 192 innings he gave up 1 sb on 3 attempts. If you change rating could let me know what it is, not starting my league over. Thanks for all the hard work you guys do with ratings, you guys do a great job.

I think you're probably right. Set it to 173.

stevens84 04-22-2014 04:11 PM

Jameis Winston is listed as an outfielder for the 2015 draft class? I know he spent time there during his Freshman year, but I'm pretty sure most scouts view him as a player who has a better shot to make it to the majors on the mound. He also has no pitching ratings?

I believe PG has him ranked as the 13th best prospect in the 2015 class, as a pitcher.

I think this is the article 2015 MLB Draft: Top 200 Prospects | Perfect Game USA

Lukas Berger 04-22-2014 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by stevens84 (Post 3680955)
Jameis Winston is listed as an outfielder for the 2015 draft class? I know he spent time there during his Freshman year, but I'm pretty sure most scouts view him as a player who has a better shot to make it to the majors on the mound. He also has no pitching ratings?

I believe PG has him ranked as the 13th best prospect in the 2015 class, as a pitcher.

I think this is the article 2015 MLB Draft: Top 200 Prospects | Perfect Game USA

Yeah, a lot of real draft guys haven't been terribly well edited yet. The whole thing is very much a wip that'll take some time to get perfect.

As you probably realize having this many real draft guys is far beyond anything we've ever done before. Matt Garrioch's done a great job with it but he and I will continually be working on these guys as we find time all the way through the year and into OOTP16.

Storm 04-22-2014 04:25 PM

I think Manny Ramirez is listed as retired in the database, but he shouldn't be - he signed with a new agent in February, and he's looking to play in either Japan or America.

Manny Ramirez | MLB Trade Rumors

stevens84 04-22-2014 08:17 PM

Uh for some reason, B-R has the Padres with no SS-A team?

They're had the Eugene Emeralds for years, and when I google Eugene Emeralds, it says that they're the Pads SS-A affiliate.

In game, they're still the Pads SS-A affiliate, I'm starting to wonder if B-R made a mistake or maybe they're on to something we aren't?

http://www.baseball-reference.com/mi....cgi?year=2014

blazertaz13 04-22-2014 08:22 PM

Liking the Game
 
I may have been around awhile and I have tried other versions (without playing as much as I should), but so far I am really liking the new version,

For me the new menus have seemed very intuitive and I am able to get around and find things. I personally realize that I have a lot to learn, but I really do appreciate the new user interface.

I will most likely be posting in the new users sections, but I have a feeling a new addiction is about to start.

Thanks to the OOTP team as I have been looking for the diversion from reality.

Taz

haveband 04-22-2014 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by stevens84 (Post 3681246)
Uh for some reason, B-R has the Padres with no SS-A team?

They're had the Eugene Emeralds for years, and when I google Eugene Emeralds, it says that they're the Pads SS-A affiliate.

In game, they're still the Pads SS-A affiliate, I'm starting to wonder if B-R made a mistake or maybe they're on to something we aren't?

2014 Minor League Affiliations - Baseball-Reference.com

This is all the proof I need

The Official Site of The Eugene Emeralds | go-ems.com Homepage

stevens84 04-22-2014 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by haveband (Post 3681255)

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. It's weird B-R would be wrong on something like that?

Lukas Berger 04-22-2014 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by stevens84 (Post 3681268)
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. It's weird B-R would be wrong on something like that?

It is weird. But the Emeralds twitter account is active and they're set to host the 2014 NWL All-Star game as well, so it appears BR is wrong, for whatever reason.

subtle 04-22-2014 11:43 PM

If we're adding things to the list of player ratings to be adjusted, Trevor Rosenthal is listed as 93-95 MPH when I have scouting turned off but he throws his fastball in the 95-97 range in real life

Trevor Rosenthal » PitchFx » Velocity Graphs » FA | FanGraphs Baseball

mgom27 04-22-2014 11:58 PM

Manny Ramirez is an easy fix just un retire him. Might update Prospect List to the 2014 on MLB.com.

misterblonde3 04-23-2014 03:42 AM

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Originally Posted by lukasberger (Post 3680723)
As bwburke suggests the issue is likely that you have an inaccurate scouting report. Machado is absolutely a 5.0 star potential guy in the roster set.

As for Markakis, there was a typo and so his speed was 23 instead of 123. Thanks for pointing this out, it's fixed now!

Ok sweet that sounds good. This is my first time ever playing an OOTP game so if it was a mistake with my own system then i apologize. How do i know if the scouting is accurate or not? Is that a setting I can change, or is it just based on how talented the scout is?

frangipard 04-23-2014 09:15 AM

Sadly, Jonathan Papelbon does not throw at anything like the velocity the game has him at. He's more of a 90-92 guy now.

Phillies Notebook: Phillies closer Jonathan Papelbon getting slower


Also, don't know if this is a roster issue, but just putting it in this thread -- the ratings for international coaches (Taiwan, Italy, Mexico in particular) are insane.

BIG17EASY 04-23-2014 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by lukasberger (Post 3681305)
It is weird. But the Emeralds twitter account is active and they're set to host the 2014 NWL All-Star game as well, so it appears BR is wrong, for whatever reason.

The Emeralds are also listed on the Padres' website as their SS-A affiliate.

kadoc 04-23-2014 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by lukasberger (Post 3678689)
Korea actually has a posting agreement with MLB?

Wow, must've missed that, probably because it's never been used.

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Originally Posted by injury log (Post 3678702)
I googled it just to make sure I was remembering properly. :) I think it came about after the Orioles' aborted attempt to sign Seong-min Kim - anyway, it was agreed in 2012, so it's very recent. If you google some variety of keywords including 'KBO', 'posting', '2012' and 'MLB' or something similar, I'm sure you'll find details pretty easily if you're interested.

There's been a posting agreement between KBO and MLB for much longer than that, as Lim Chang-yong was posted by the Lions in 2002. And it's been successfully used in the 2012-2013 offseason with Ryu Hyun-jin.

Carlton 04-23-2014 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by stevens84 (Post 3681246)
Uh for some reason, B-R has the Padres with no SS-A team?

They're had the Eugene Emeralds for years, and when I google Eugene Emeralds, it says that they're the Pads SS-A affiliate.

In game, they're still the Pads SS-A affiliate, I'm starting to wonder if B-R made a mistake or maybe they're on to something we aren't?

2014 Minor League Affiliations - Baseball-Reference.com

Let me tell, someone very very close to me cannot even change his baseball reference page with emails about what college he went to...I think there are many errors on that site, they need to hire some more people, so start donating

TGH-Adfabre 04-23-2014 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by misterblonde3 (Post 3681493)
Ok sweet that sounds good. This is my first time ever playing an OOTP game so if it was a mistake with my own system then i apologize. How do i know if the scouting is accurate or not? Is that a setting I can change, or is it just based on how talented the scout is?

In your league set up options you can set scouting to 100% or turn it off. You can also go in commissioner mode, go to the player profile, click the Editor tab and look at his real ratings. This will tell you the numbers OOTP uses in the back ground to run the sim.
Scouting accuracy is based on both League settings and your scouts talent. Although with anything less than 100% accuracy or scouting off there will always be some degree of inaccuracy.

Cowboys3356 04-23-2014 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by lukasberger (Post 3680960)
Yeah, a lot of real draft guys haven't been terribly well edited yet. The whole thing is very much a wip that'll take some time to get perfect.

As you probably realize having this many real draft guys is far beyond anything we've ever done before. Matt Garrioch's done a great job with it but he and I will continually be working on these guys as we find time all the way through the year and into OOTP16.

Others have said it before but again thank you for all of the work you put into this roster set. Having this available is HUGE and makes the game so much fun for me and a lot of other people. You do a great job with something that will never please everyone because we will always disagree about ratings on some level. But you have managed to accurately recreate the modern baseball environment and that is pretty awesome!


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