Bug: Playoff Problem
 

Hopefully this hasn't been mentioned before, I tried to skim where I could...

In my first season with the default league St. Louis finished at 117-45, and Houston finished at 93-69, but they wound up playing each other in the first round. Houston should have played, Florida who finished 95-67. St. Louis should have played Los Angeles (84-79). So instead of 1 vs 4 and 2 vs 3, it was 1 vs 3 and 2 vs 4, with the wild card playing its own division champion as well....Im guessing the game has the wild card playing the top seed coded.

I apologize if this has already been reported.

Incorrect Playoff Formats
 

I noticed in a league i converted, i ran test sims to make sure everything is still A OK, and it was, until i got to the playoffs.

i noticed that the 1st season i simmed that Houston and Chicago both made the playoffs, with Chicago (Cubs) winning the Wildcard. they faced each other in the 1st round.

its probably just a logic thing that needs to be looked at.

Thanks.

OOTP has long not followed the MLB rule of not allowing the wild card in a 3-division setup to play the winner of their division in the first round of the playoffs.

Now that the game can permit setups like 10 divisions and 6 wildcards I think it may be less likely there will be a rule set in the game to not allow divisional opponents to play each other in the first round of the playoffs.

in OOTP6.5 i know it followed the rule, thats why i was surprised to not see it here, especially in the 3 division setup.

im hoping that this can be fixed.

Same here.

Yes, they fixed that wildcard bug in 6.5. I just noticed it's back in 2006.

I would rather this be an option rather than just a straight fix, but I will take a straight fix over nothing at all.

Logged, TT#1582

Only problem is for leagues with other playoff setups the idea of restricting a wildcard team from meeting the division winner from its own division could prove problematic.

Hopefully it will be possible to limit this restriction to only the three division winner, one wildcard setup. But the playoff setups seem to be more complicated to code than it might seem (at least, based on the reply I got from Markus about how much work incorporating the Shaughnessy playoff format into the game would take).

That's not an easy fix because of all the different playoffs possible... suggestions?

See TT 869....

Please pardon my quasi-pseudo code :) :

j = NumberOfTeamsInPlayoffs

For i = 1 to (NumberOfTeamsInPlayoffs / 2)
print "In this round," j " will play " i "." *\print or do whatever with teams/*
j--
next i


A different routine would be used for Wild Card situations where team i becomes the Wild Card team when i = 1.

This is actually something that is pretty major and should really be looked at.

I wouldn't call it major, I'd call it more of an annoyance. There are probably some who prefer OOTP's way and think MLB's first round restriction is foolish anyway. :)

Also, if you're doing a historical league, the current MLB playoff matchup scheme was not used in 1995-1997 and an entirely different method was used. That system can't be recreated either.

Playoff Seeding Is Not Correct!
 

Post-Patch

1 League

16 Divisions

Wildcards

The Post-Season was seeded

1-32
2-31
3-30

and etc

down to 16-17

1-16 is Division winners

17-32 is Wildcard teams

So, in the second round, the 1 and 2 teams meet - UGH!!!

It should have been:

1-32
16-17

8-25
9-24

4-29
13-20

5-28
12-21

2-31
15-18

7-26
10-23

3-30
14-29

6-27
11-32

See what I mean????

Do I get a TT #?
 

Or is this the place to get TT #'s ??

this would be the place

Do you see my bug?

And sure enough, I have the best record in the league in
season 2 with a week to go - and if I beat the worst-wildcard
team in round 1 of the playoffs I will be going up against
the second best team in round 2....

Has anyone else seen the bug?

When do I get my first TT # ???
 

Just wondering - would like to see this fixed in next patch...

this has been raised

Thanks!

Also, no scroll bar on post seasons standings when there are more teams than will fit on a screen and 'strange' won-loss records of teams in playoffs in the schedule page where you manage/quick play??

Speaking of incorrect playoff formats, I sincerely hope something is done for the second patch that corrects the scenario that faces the Wild Card winner with its own divisional winner in the first round.

Teddible...just teddible.

I thought I would give this thread a bump, because this problem really bothers me. I realize there might be problems with greater numbers of leagues, but is there really no way to make it an option to restrict the Wild Card winner from playing its own divisional opponent int he first round? Seems like a must when you're playing a three divisional format.

Wild Card Issue
 

For some reason the game is not recognizing teams in the same division should not be playing each other in the first round of the playoffs.

In other words OAK vs TEX

Oakland was the AL West winner, Texas was the wild card, and they played each other in the first round...

:friday::eatpop::happy::flowers::hello!!:

Just for the record if this is fixed, I hope there is a check box for people who are fine with two teams in the division playing each other first (I think its a stupid MLB rule anyway).

This was an issue in v6 and was either fixed in 6.12 or 6.5, but apparently the rules have been forgotten.

Playoffs Issue
 

I've noticed this in previous versions, but figured it would be fixed. However, since it hasn't I thought I'd say something.

In MLB since the advent of the Wild Card, the WC team cannot face in the first round of the playoffs, a team from the same division.

The last four seasons I've played, I've won the division with another team in my division being the WC winner. Every time, I have played them in the first round of the playoffs.

This should be fixed.

Thanks!!

battists has raised that issue and it is TT#1582.

Wildcard in playoffs
 

Anyone else notice that the wildcard tea will still play the best team in a given league even if both teams are in the same division?

I'm pretty sure that problem is to be fixed in the next patch.

TT#1582-Open Status.

This issue has been claimed to be fixed. We haven't yet confirmed though.

Merged some related threads. This is TT 1582, and has been claimed fixed.

Merged another one. :)

And...another one. Wow, this was one popular problem!

:D

This has been claimed fixed (again), and we've done our best to verify it, so I'm moving this to claimed fixed. We weren't able to get the error to occur again in 50 or so years of simming...

Steve

Merged in a few related threads. Again, this should be fixed in the next patch.

Thanks!