Best Football Simulator like TBCB
 

I'm looking for a PC football game similar in nature to TBCB. I'd like something based on the Pros, not the college game- divisions, playoffs, draft, etc. I don't really care about real teams or players as I'll more-than-likely create my own fictional universe.

TBCB is the only PC simulation game I own so I figured I give it a shot asking here as maybe some of you know about a good football sim that you'd recommend. I'd appreciate any help and recommendations!

Hi CurryStorm

As far as pro football simulators..

There's this one: Barcode Games - Professional Football Simulator

I haven't tried it myself, but have read some positive comments about it. You can play with either real or fictional players and the league configuration is fully customizable.

Then, of course, there is this one: Solecismic Software: Home of Front Office Football

It is by far the deepest pro football simulation on the market (that I'm aware of). You can play with real or fictional players, but the league configuration isn't really customizable at all...at least not as far as league structure...number of teams, number of divisions and all that. But it's an excellent game.

Hope this gives you a start.

Mark

That's good info Mark.

Has anyone heard of a wargame sim along the lines of TBCB?

I always thought any sim that could have data of modern armies in it where you could sim a battle between any 2 countries would be interesting. Not easy to do with all the potential variables but along the lines of TBCB would be pretty cool.

I've got an American Football sim called Second and Ten on my PC which is pretty good.
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I just bought Front Office Football, and the more I play the more I like it. It's a very good sim that sucks you into the deep end.

I've played actionpc and strat-o-matic.

I play STRAT-O, but they're best game is the Baseball game.

I prefer FOF but Wolverines football attempt is in the works and will probably be good

I agree. There football game is gimmicky, but the baseball and hoops games are very good. Actionpc's football and baseball games are very good.

All pro teams since 1940 included with the pro game,a must for any pro football fan. This game is more set up for 1 year leagues which you can make 32 team leagues from any of the teams since 1940. Also every years new season is available for free.

Also playing out the games is the most fun,the in game commentary is great.

Plus they also have the college version.

Its my football game of choice right now.

Modern WarSim......try CMSF. Comabt Mission Strike Force, by BattleFront. Great modern war sim.

As for a football sim....I still contend without question Front Page Sports ProFootball 97/98 is the best game/sim ever made.

FOF is excellent, I've been playing it for years. And there is a great online community for multiplayer. Once you play MP - you'll never go back to single player.

Here's a link to FOF Central - tons of multi-player leagues to choose from.

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The best football game for head to head, online play IMO is PC Action Football. It's the most fun I've ever had playing any game. There are lots of leagues using this game and the games are very exciting playing against another human coach.

The drawback is the price of the game and that you have to buy every season dick seperate.

Wow, thanks for all the replies. There are so many options, I'm going to have to do some studying before I decide on one.

Speaking of PC war games, does anybody know of a good Civil War one? My Dad is a strategy war game nut, but his favorite is a Civil War game called "Civil War Generals 2" (I believe this is right). I've never played it but from what he tells me, it is set-up like the Koei games on the consoles, games like Romance of the Three Kingdoms, Liberty or Death, etc. (for those who have played those games). I've been trying to find him a good Civil War game in this vein but haven't run across any yet.

Does anyone on here play any good Civil War games or any old school - Civil War, Revolutionary War - war games in general?

Thanks meade, I'll check them out.

* My league is starting season #11 this fall. The number of people playing text simulation type games is ever dwindling. In about ten years, it will be a niche and we will have fewer and fewer options due to the lesser demand.

I've been with ActionPC for about a decade now. I'm used to the interface and game play. The artificial intelligence is very good if you play against the computer led team as I do guiding one or two teams through a whole season.

I'm really poor at calling good defensive plays, so I allow the game to do it for me (as my "defensive coach"). Although I like the game, I haven't played it in about 2 years because when I have the time, I prefer spending it with my Title Bout Universe.

Regarding good AI.......I likewise find the AI of FBPRO 97 to be by far better than anything released in today's market. FBPRO AI is dynamic and continually attacks/counters incredibly well......It will use Human/or other AI player trends (current game play calling trends and or/ recent past games played during a given season of that same given team profile).

It is the only game I have had (sports) that I have not been able over time to pretty much have my way with. Its player editor along with play editor, team mgmt, coaching profile editor, etc......Just keep the game constantly up and running on every system I have.

More to my point. I have played out a full 17 recorded seasons now (in my 17th) I have only won the Super Bowl once (an incredible 17-16 victory over Green Bay).....have been to the Super Bowl only twice. With another half dozen crushing playoff defeats at the end of otherwise excellent seasons...

I'm currently in the first round of the playoffs in my 17th Season. My team I own/coach (but don't play, as a player, just Off / Def Coach) is based mostly on the 95 Steelers.

I'm about to meet the Colts (On the road at their place). Payton Manning Colts (based mostly on the Colts of the late 2000's). I'm 12-4 going Vs them in which they went 14-2.

I agree. Strat-O baseball is a great game, basketball is pretty good but a little slow, and the pro and college football games are lacking...IMO

They do a great job rating the players for the football game, but the game is very clunky. Plus, I'm not huge on their customer service. Unless, you can solve the problem via email, they have a tech support line that you have to pay for.

I own Second and Ten - a very good game. I've also played the demo of Action PC and thought it was excellent. One big advantage of Second and Ten is that it gives you every NFL team back to the 1940's.

Both games can be frustrating because to do well you need to know something about football strategy and to have good players.

Actually, that's one of the nice things about ActionPC. I thoroughly enjoy making offensive play calls and anticipating a defensive rush. I'm just terrible doing the same on defense, so I let the computer coach my defense and I just play the offense.

I don't know if you can do that with Second and Ten?

I'm just the opposite of Jersey-Jim. I called the same six or seven plays on offense all year, but excelled anticipating and calling defenses and finally won the Bowl in my league after ten seasons of trying.

[QUOTE=meade95;2959773]Modern WarSim......try CMSF. Comabt Mission Strike Force, by BattleFront. Great modern war sim.

I found CMSF on Amazon for $3. I think I'll give it a try for that price.

Is it good by it self, or does it need the add on mods?

[QUOTE=Yasko;2964393]The original game is great by itself (MAKE SURE YOU PATCH IT TO it's current version ...1.21 I blieve it is! The PATCH IS A MUST).

The MARINES Add-on module is great too though.......

I would definitely recommend PFS at barcodegames.com.

Brooks is updating all the time based on feedback from owners. Quite a few new online leagues out there too.

Bumping this thread to try and get the most recent (and best) answer... I'm looking for a game (we previously used FbPro98) for an online simulation league. Any good suggestions? Reading this thread, seems like FOF was the best solution but is that still the case? I saw some of these games were H2H which is something that we are not looking for. Ideally, something very similar to OOTP. Any insight would be extremely helpful and appreciated.

yup - FOF is definately the best for multi-player leagues - and there are some great ones out there...

Try "Supreme Ruler 2020" from Battlegoat Studios. Some stuff is abstracted, of course, but it's a real-world RTS with accurate data on military units. Very addictive. It isn't about simming a battle between 2 countries, but more of a political/military simulator where you run your economy, build up your armed forces and invade your enemies. The map is beautiful, based on satellite imagery.

There is a demo.

OMG! That was absolutely the best. I used to spend way too much time playing that, and would simulate seasons in about a week (sometimes less) at the expense of my college classes. I even kept records so I could tell when each player was nearing his potential cap on all of his attributes based on my training camp allocations.

What sim is closest to that now?

This sounds exactly like the way I used to play it. Does it still work on the modern versions of Windows?

I've had no luck in getting it to run (can get it installed) but get a crash on launching a game on Windows 7 -

Others I know have it running on Windows 7 (they say). But I've yet to make it work. Best way to install it is to copy paste it from another system, right into your C: (drive) on new Windows 7 system. But from there I'm still having a problem once launching a game.