DDSPF vs FOF?
 

Looking for a good foot balsam that’s deep realistic stats something similar to out of the park baseball and I found these two. Out of the two mentioned which one would you recommend for the most realistic in depth football simulator? Or perhaps another one I’m open for suggestions thank you.


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One doesn't exist yet lol

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Front office football Doesn’t exist? It’s on Steam lol.


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I think he means FOF8 and DDSPF20.

Yes I do.


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I still play FOF 8 and enjoy it. The GUI is absolutely awful but has a lot of depth if you can get past it. I still pick it over WS likely due to familiarity.

FOF8 is amazing, I play daily, more than 1200 hours since release. The best part is playing multiplayer, so let me know if u acquire it, I Commish one of the longest ternure MP leagues out there.

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Thank you I will keep you posted. Also are that stats and play pretty realistic or far fetched? I have been learning and playing OOTP Baseball and love the depth and realism. Please let me know. Thank you.


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It is quite real, and as in FOF8 you can customise your playbook and which plays u want to run in down and distance, you can also use miss matches to your advantage! Pure NFL play!

Have a look through the statistics of our league and you will find out that results are pretty realistic:

http://www.simgamingnetwork.com/osfl...standings.html

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Awesome I will pick it up. I was leaning toward Draft Day but now leaning toward FOF8. Thank you.


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Ur Welcome! let me know if you want to join us!

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Will do but have to learn the game. Is it hard game to learn?


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It is a learning curve in every game, you have a great Manual to go through and understand the game. It is not more difficult to learn that OOTP was for me. Lol

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Ok I do understand football and unfortunately I have been a NY Jet fans my whole life lol. And OOTP is difficult lol. I’m still trying to learn.


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Hahaha

I still have the manual open during the Draft and training camp myself!

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The biggest problem I heard with FOF8 is the user interface. Is it that bad or is it manageable?


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If you like the retro style is great hahaha. Yeah user interface isn't the best, DDSPF20 is far better and also have 2D graphics which FOF8 doesn't have to be fair.

But you get used to it, it's intituitive and easy to handle, you can even open multiple windows at one to help u decide between options, that's the whole point of FOF and OOTP adding forces to come up with a more user frienfly looking interface with the strong ME and logic of FOF.

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Is it ok without the 2D graphics and the other thing is I was watching a video on DDS and it seems the ratings are off for example they have Dak Prescott as a 92ish if I remember correctly and I think that is off a bit lol. So the 2D sounds great but the realism of stats and performance is more important to me.


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FOF8 has an X-Factor built in so if you click Yes every time you start ratings will look completely different. If you say No then it will be roughly the same, but will still have disparities with your thinking. Also FOF8 doesn't have this years rosters as yet.

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Wanted to point out a couple things to you in regards to DDSPF20 - for one the ratings are done by a community mod maker and you can edit anything you don't like in the game. If you are looking for multiplayer experiences there are some great leagues I can point you towards like http://football.championsimleague.com/ - those guys did amazing things with their basketball league and I'm sure this one is just as dynamic (and I believe they just finished the season and are looking for new members)

Also if price happens to be a factor we're having a black friday sale right now at wolverinestudios.com where PF20 is only 19.99. Either way you can't go wrong as both games are very, very good.

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One of the reasons I picked DDPFS over FOF, aside from it being more customizable closer to OOTP is the actual game results being more realistic. I read somewhere that FOF doesn't even have 2-point conversions or onside kicks, something that PFS does have. I haven't played FOF but I'm wondering if someone who played both could expound more on this? The game engine, the actual games being played are the most important part of the game to me.

I would love to know this too. I love realism especially when it comes to these types of games have the reason why I love OOTP 20.


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What are the sim statistics like for ddspf20? Would anyone mind posting their league leaders?

Just asking because statistical accuracy has always been the biggest reason I prefer fof to ddspf. Apparently 20 is better but I’m still skeptical of it.

If you are looking for statistical realism, FOF is the better option. The FOF engine does an outstanding job of mirroring the NFL.


Further, player profiles are deeper in FOF - football skills as well as physical attributes. DDS PF seems to be focused on combine ratings such as speed (for WRs and DBs) and strength (linemen). IMO, FOF offers more challenges with developing players and roster building.


FOF is stronger in terms of game planning, despite the recent DDS PF custom playbook feature. FOF game planning has the feel of how NFL teams script plays based on down and distance situations.


To be fair, I'm sure some folks prefer DDS PF. I've only played that game casually, but enough to understand that FOF is my preference for a football sim emphasizing the GM role.

If realism is what you’re after, you should choose FOF (IMO FOF7 is better than 8, but YMMV)

If you want something that is similar to football, but looks much much better, and is easier to be drawn into the game world as a whole, DDS is the one for you.

Other than the GUI my main gripe with FOF is that you have to pull the vast majority of information from the game, whereas with DDS much more info is pushed to you, which helps you feel part of a universe.

However the contracts, stats and playing out of the games are much more solid in FOF

The perfect mix would be the FOF base with the DDS look & feel... which is what we all hope OOTP FOF will be!

Having played both thoroughly I will be as concise as I can be. One developer is a perfectionist. The other is not. Both are fun games though.

That's a lie. FOF has both 2 point conversion and onside kick when required.

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As commissioner of Champion Sim Football League [CSFL] we are always looking for great new GMs (currently have 3 openings) and we have a very realistic league with a great community.

I would love to but Being new not to the game of football but to this game I don’t know if anybody would have the patience with me to give me tips and kind of guide me along the way I don’t wouldn’t know where to begin LOL


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