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murmur13 04-20-2007 10:50 AM

Importing Historical Pitchers: Is ERA used to generate ratings?
 
I'm curious as to if ERA is used to generate historical ratings for pitchers. I ask because I'm creating a Japanese roster set using MLEs. I made MLEs for the stats I thought were relevant (IP, hits, walks, HR allowed, etc...), but the pitchers are a little better than I expected. One thing I didn't do was adjust ERA, because I assumed it was not used to generate player ratings. But I could be wrong.

So is ERA used to generate pitcher ratings? And is there a source saying what stats are used to generate historical pitcher ratings?

sporr 04-20-2007 11:45 AM

ERA shouldn't have any effect. The only Lahman DB stats that will have an impact are IPOUTS, K, BB, and HR to my knowledge.

Nukester 04-21-2007 10:31 AM

With early history pitcher imports and a scale rating of 1-10, all of my pitchers import with either a 1,2, or 3 in stuff, with most of them a 10 movement. The only real rating that seems variable is control, which can range from around 4 or so to 10. Is this normal ? Endurance seems pretty good too, but why all of the 2 stuff, 10 movement guys ?

sporr 04-21-2007 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Nukester (Post 2166733)
With early history pitcher imports and a scale rating of 1-10, all of my pitchers import with either a 1,2, or 3 in stuff, with most of them a 10 movement. The only real rating that seems variable is control, which can range from around 4 or so to 10. Is this normal ? Endurance seems pretty good too, but why all of the 2 stuff, 10 movement guys ?

Most of those early pitchers didn't strike out many, but they also didn't allow hardly any HR. That's how you get the low stuff/high movement players.

Nukester 04-21-2007 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by sporr (Post 2166752)
Most of those early pitchers didn't strike out many, but they also didn't allow hardly any HR. That's how you get the low stuff/high movement players.

So later in history, pitchers with high stuff are more likely to K more batters than pitchers with low stuff ? Stuff and movement have always confused me. In real life, if someone told me a pitcher had "good stuff", I would think the pitcher had good movement on his ball. Why the two different ratings ?

sporr 04-21-2007 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Nukester (Post 2166780)
So later in history, pitchers with high stuff are more likely to K more batters than pitchers with low stuff ? Stuff and movement have always confused me. In real life, if someone told me a pitcher had "good stuff", I would think the pitcher had good movement on his ball. Why the two different ratings ?

Stuff correlates most directly with strikeouts and movement with allowing HR. At least, that's the way OOTP handles it. :)

Nukester 04-21-2007 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by sporr (Post 2166854)
Stuff correlates most directly with strikeouts and movement with allowing HR. At least, that's the way OOTP handles it. :)


Thanks. Thats good to know :)


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