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noble 05-01-2007 10:14 AM

Caught Stealing stat for catchers
 
I play out my games on a PC.

I have noticed that when my catcher throws out a steal attempt, it is logged in the box scores and batting stats as CS. I believe that it also correctly records the fielding stat of RTO.

f.montoya 05-01-2007 10:16 PM

Not sure what the problem is here. Can you explain it in more detail?

noble 05-02-2007 10:46 AM

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The problem shows up in the box score and the catcher's stats. I posted the wrong files, sorry.

In these box scores and game log, you can see that the catcher (A Rivera) throws out E. Aguirre in the first inning. the log does not report A Rivera ever attempting a steal but the box score and his batting stats show a CS. I have to do more checking to see if his fielding stats are correctly updated.

f.montoya 05-02-2007 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by noble (Post 2180176)
The problem shows up in the box score and the catcher's stats. I posted the wrong files, sorry.

In these box scores and game log, you can see that the catcher (A Rivera) throws out E. Aguirre in the first inning. the log does not report A Rivera ever attempting a steal but the box score and his batting stats show a CS. I have to do more checking to see if his fielding stats are correctly updated.

Now I'm really confused. I looked at the log. Aguirre shows as caught stealing to end the game in the log.

noble 05-02-2007 11:06 AM

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Here is a screenshot of the first inning. The imprtant thing about Aguirre is that Rivera threw him out.

Did you see in the log that Rivera was never caught stealing?

Curtis 05-05-2007 04:53 AM

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Originally Posted by noble (Post 2180242)
Here is a screenshot of the first inning. The imprtant thing about Aguirre is that Rivera threw him out.

Did you see in the log that Rivera was never caught stealing?

Rivera WASN'T caught stealing. Rivera was the catcher. The catcher isn't caught stealing; he catches runners (Aguirre).

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Originally Posted by noble (Post 2180176)
In these box scores and game log, you can see that the catcher (A Rivera) throws out E. Aguirre in the first inning. the log does not report A Rivera ever attempting a steal but the box score and his batting stats show a CS. I have to do more checking to see if his fielding stats are correctly updated.

Rivera did not attempt a steal; Aguirre did. This should show up in Rivera's fielding stats, not in Aguirre's.

Fidel, I'm confused, too. As near as I can tell, noble has mentally transposed what catchers do with what runners do. To me, everything looks right.

Zeyes 05-06-2007 04:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Curtis (Post 2184026)
Rivera WASN'T caught stealing. Rivera was the catcher. The catcher isn't caught stealing; he catches runners (Aguirre).

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Rivera did not attempt a steal; Aguirre did. This should show up in Rivera's fielding stats, not in Aguirre's.

The point he's trying to make is that the box score says that Rivera did try to steal:

BASERUNNING
CS: N. Wilson (14), A. Rivera (6)

Curtis 05-06-2007 11:52 AM

Thank you, Zeyes. (Open mouth — insert foot.)

noble 05-07-2007 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Zeyes (Post 2185331)
The point he's trying to make is that the box score says that Rivera did try to steal:

BASERUNNING
CS: N. Wilson (14), A. Rivera (6)


Thank you! that is what I was trying to get across. The log is right rivera NEVER attempted to steal, but the box score gives him a CS that is also recorded in his batting stats.

magnet 05-07-2007 12:40 PM

I wonder if this is whats causing the high CS% numbers?

http://ootpdevelopments.com/board/sh...d.php?t=146789

Nutlaw 05-20-2007 10:38 AM

Tt 3602

sporr 05-20-2007 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by magnet (Post 2186745)
I wonder if this is whats causing the high CS% numbers?

http://ootpdevelopments.com/board/sh...d.php?t=146789

I think that's a different problem. What's listed here is the catcher apparently getting a CS credit when it should be a RTO. The other thread is runners actually getting caught stealing way too often.

Nutlaw 08-01-2007 06:23 PM

This has been claimed fixed for the third patch. If after installing the third patch (once it is released), you find this to still be a problem, please post as such in Tech Support along with the above TT number. Thanks.


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