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Cowboys3356 06-05-2018 03:31 PM

How does game handle Recalc?
 
I am playing a career league with Historical Recalc (5 year) turned on. How does the game handle a player that has no career stats? Does it just ignore the recalc function for that player and let them develop normally (the OOPT development engine is turned on, using the basic Challenge mode settings).

I am trying to decide if it is worth holding onto players who are long past their real life retirement date or if they will still produce since their ratings remain high. Also I occasionally find the top prospect with great ratings but with no real life stats.

Orcin 06-05-2018 03:57 PM

Yes, they develop and decline based on the development engine once there is nothing to base a recalc on. I have seen players like Whitey Kurowski and Sandy Koufax have great careers past their retirement date.

Cowboys3356 06-05-2018 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Orcin (Post 4332380)
Yes, they develop and decline based on the development engine once there is nothing to base a recalc on. I have seen players like Whitey Kurowski and Sandy Koufax have great careers past their retirement date.

Koufax is the player that was making me wonder about this because I have him and he is at age 37 and totally dominating the game!

RchW 06-05-2018 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Cowboys3356 (Post 4332461)
Koufax is the player that was making me wonder about this because I have him and he is at age 37 and totally dominating the game!

If his elbow didn't hurt it's very reasonable IRL IMO.

actionjackson 06-06-2018 01:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Cowboys3356 (Post 4332461)
Koufax is the player that was making me wonder about this because I have him and he is at age 37 and totally dominating the game!

Koufax had a CEI in my long running OOTP16 game. I don't manage a team, so it didn't directly affect me, but it still sucks. I think he was about 5 years into his career so he hadn't become SANDY KOUFAX yet, and that's why it sucked so much, because I didn't get to see that. :(

Cowboys3356 06-06-2018 11:08 AM

In the past I was never a recalc player but since it is part of the Challenge Mode I have been using it and really like it. I was originally against recalc because I thought it would just make every player perform exactly like they did in real life but I have found that there are a lot of variances with it. Some players who were stars absolutely tank and others that you never heard of in real life put up some great careers!

actionjackson 06-06-2018 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Cowboys3356 (Post 4332642)
In the past I was never a recalc player but since it is part of the Challenge Mode I have been using it and really like it. I was originally against recalc because I thought it would just make every player perform exactly like they did in real life but I have found that there are a lot of variances with it. Some players who were stars absolutely tank and others that you never heard of in real life put up some great careers!

That can definitely happen with the OOTP development system on. I sometimes wonder if recalc is a once a year thing (first day of the offseason when the new ratings are imported), and then development takes over until the next batch of ratings are imported, or if development only takes over once a player's RL numbers run out. Hmmm...

David Watts 06-06-2018 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by actionjackson (Post 4332673)
That can definitely happen with the OOTP development system on. I sometimes wonder if recalc is a once a year thing (first day of the offseason when the new ratings are imported), and then development takes over until the next batch of ratings are imported, or if development only takes over once a player's RL numbers run out. Hmmm...




Again I have to ask, if the bold were the case, why would the developers recommend disabling player development for those playing single season replays?

actionjackson 06-06-2018 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by David Watts (Post 4332677)
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Again I have to ask, if the bold were the case, why would the developers recommend disabling player development for those playing single season replays?

Very possible/probable. That's why I asked a question rather than making a statement. At least I thought I did. :o

Orcin 06-06-2018 02:18 PM

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I sometimes wonder if recalc is a once a year thing (first day of the offseason when the new ratings are imported), and then development takes over until the next batch of ratings are imported, or if development only takes over once a player's RL numbers run out.


I don't know how the program actually works, but this seems to be the case. I get development reports during the year, showing players going up and down. That couldn't really be caused by recalc, because there is no new data. So I am guessing that the development engine has done something, which will be "recalc'd" at the next offseason cycle.

Cowboy, I am wondering if recalc is actually on in Challenge Mode. I see the setting here, and it looks as if the checkbox is blank (not checked).

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Maybe one of the developers will see this and clarify, but it was my understanding that recalc was unavailable in Challenge Mode.

Brad K 06-07-2018 05:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Cowboys3356 (Post 4332642)
In the past I was never a recalc player but since it is part of the Challenge Mode I have been using it and really like it. I was originally against recalc because I thought it would just make every player perform exactly like they did in real life but I have found that there are a lot of variances with it. Some players who were stars absolutely tank and others that you never heard of in real life put up some great careers!

I had the same kind of impression. I didn't figure they'd perform exactly, but I didn't figure as much variance as actually occurs.

The main reason I switched to recalc is it seems with career development there are no star batters after age 30. Yet there are batters who weren't stars until after age 30.


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