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nutt 03-05-2024 02:17 PM

Full Semi-Fictional Universe is HERE!
 
I've been kicking the tires around creating a Big World but this is purely fictional. Why does it say semi-fictional? Because some of the team names are teams that are non-existent at this point, or was rumored/used elsewhere.

Post 2 will be reserved for documentation purposes of what leagues.

This is not a start from 2022, 2023, or 2024 with no league histories. These leagues will have a full stats history along with relocation, relegation/promotion where available, expansion, leagues going defunct and teams aborting leagues, tournaments. This was what I was aiming for with Big World 23. This is being called Mega World!

All credit for artwork, add-ons, etc will be provided.

UPDATE: May 21, 2024: 1970 beta test is now in my signature. 1982 is being prepped for release.

nutt 03-05-2024 07:01 PM

Here we go... this will be an ongoing running field of what is added and listed for this....

Below will have the list of leagues. In ()'s is the year they begin IN THE GAME, not when the league was inaugurated. Abbreviations List is below.

ITALICS INDICATES NEW FORMAT ADDED BY 1982!

Pyramid
British Baseball Pyramid
  • National Baseball League (ML)
  • British Triple-A League (P2)
  • British Double-A (P3)

Italian Baseball Pyramid
  • Italian Baseball League (ML)
  • Italia Serie A (P2)
  • Italia Serie B (P3)
  • Coppa Italia Serie C (P4)

French Baseball Pyramid
  • French Elite Baseball (ML)
  • French Division 2 (P2)


Dutch Baseball Pyramid
  • Honkbal Hoofdklasse (ML)
  • Honkbal Overgangsklasse (2D)

Spanish Baseball Pyramid
  • Spanish Baseball League (ML)
  • Liga Nacional de Beisbol Division de Honor (P2)
  • Liga Nacional de Beisbol 1a Division (P3)

Major Leagues
  • Continental League (North America, AAA/AA/A/R)
  • Indian Premier League (two levels of minor leagues)
  • Cuban League (locked, non-movement)
  • Japanese Pro Baseball Organization (tehsuigi's creation; see more on his post-will link later)
  • Korea Professional Baseball

International Leagues
  • West German Baseball Bundesliga
  • Belgian Baseball League
  • Mexican League
  • Australian Baseball Federation
  • Welsh Premiership
  • Czechoslovak Baseball Federation
  • Baseball Philippines
  • Swedish Eliteserien
  • Egyptian Premier League (two minor leagues)
  • Finnish Pesapallolitto
  • Federation Tunisienne de Baseball (Tunisia)
  • Palau Major League
  • Danish Championship League
  • Yugoslavia Baseball Organization

Minor/Developmental League Levels added by 1982
  • India Rookie League (R)
  • Egyptian Minor Leagues (Reserve-A- and Rookie League)
  • Cape Cod League (Summer Collegiate League - DL)

International Tournaments
  • World Cup (x4, next edition is 1971/1983)
  • Intercontinental Cup (x2)
  • Amateur World Series
  • Pan American Championship
  • World Junior Baseball Championship (Under-19, begins annually; later becomes the U-18 Baseball World Cup)
  • Asian Baseball Championship
  • European Baseball Championship
  • African Cup (x4)
  • Oceanic Championship (x4)
  • Pan American Baseball Classic
  • World Cup Qualifiers
  • South American Championship
  • European Junior Championship (x2, Later becomes U-18 European Championship)
  • European Youth Championship (x2, Later becomes U-15 European Championship)
  • Pacific Islands Challenge (x4, Palau, Micronesia, Marshall Islands, and Northern Marianas battle for Pacific Island supremacy)

Multi-Sport Events that have baseball
  • Olympiad (x4)
  • Pan American Games
  • Central American and Caribbean Games
  • Bolivarian Games
  • Central American Games (x4)

Club Tournaments:
European Champions League (European First Division League champions plus the ECL and ENL Champions)
European Nations League (regular season best record or next best from the First Division European Leagues)

What is locked, non-movement? Reserve Clause with no players allowed to leave league or free agents to join league.


The list of international tournaments added since 1970

I plan on most likely disabling the Champions and Nations Leagues come 1996, since you have to manually make the changes.

Two somewhat radical changes made to two major leagues by 1982:

The Continental League decides instead of an East-West split, that with the expanded playoffs coming for the 1982 season, they have adopted the moniker of the American and National Leagues, with the AL carrying the DH and the NL choosing not to do so. This calls for radical realignment. In the historical markers, the American League is the de facto Eastern Conference from 1961-1981, with the National League the de facto Western Conference during that same timeframe.

The other change is in the Spanish Baseball League. With a promotion/relegation pyramid in place, the East and West Divisions have been changed to Classment A and Classment B, breaking away from regional divisions and grouping classments by making sure other teams within the same region are not there, unless more than two exist at the top level.

The multiple teams in regions plays into effect in lower divisions of the European Pyramid. At the top level, the leagues prefer clubs from the same city (Liverpool, Paris, Madrid as examples) or regional area to be placed in different sub-leagues or divisions, where possible. In the levels below the first division (MAJOR LEAGUE or MAJOR INTERNATIONAL LEAGUE), these clubs tend to share the same group, region, or division to offset travel costs. Therefore, it is possible that at the Italia Serie B level that three teams from Milan share the same group, whereas two teams from Torino (Turin) are in opposite sub-leagues.


Abbreviations List:
ML - Major League
INT - International League
A- - Class A Short Season
R - Rookie League
SCL - Summer Collegiate Development League
#D - Which level on the Pyramid it is

Insomniac 03-06-2024 08:15 AM

Looking forward to this.

nutt 03-12-2024 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Insomniac (Post 5080835)
Looking forward to this.

Thanks! I'm working my way through the golden years, the 50s.

How in this world, India is the international power instead of Cuba (so far), and the Continental League is about to become a reality.

Lord PichuPal 03-12-2024 05:38 PM

This sounds really exciting, I'd love to see this come to fruition

TheChief 03-12-2024 06:54 PM

I need this

Cod 03-14-2024 09:46 PM

Count me as a follower. I'm excited to see where this leads..

nutt 03-21-2024 12:20 PM

I've made it to the debut of the Continental League and the Cuban crisis where they are abolished from the World Cup for a length of time.

Also, to try and properly simulate how the world was, Eastern bloc countries are on lock down like the Cuban League was for many years. On top of that, you have countries that split up (Soviet Union, Czechoslovakia, Yugoslavia, Netherlands Antilles) that have to be properly accounted for as well.

ETA: most likely beginning of May.

boscoJJ 03-21-2024 09:13 PM

how to make qualifier for tournaments

nutt 03-22-2024 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boscoJJ (Post 5089459)
how to make qualifier for tournaments

Something you have to do manually.

nutt 04-03-2024 06:09 PM

Those awaiting this release....WE'VE MADE IT TO THE 80s!!!!!!

What does this mean?

Quite a lot, really. Setting up league pyramids, balanced tables, and making sure I don't miss an expansion window because I'm calculating and doing stuff based on international tournaments (I did that with India oops), this is a blast! I've still got more leagues to add during the 80s, as well as expansion, pro/reg setups, etc.

If you are asking yourself, "what's a league pyramid or table," it is the European way of talking league structures as well as their standings, or table as they call it. The league pyramids for France, Spain, Italy, The Netherlands, and England are setup. These either just have the second division, or they have all the way down to the fourth table in a league or will be by the time we get there.

The game now has 40 playable leagues and 16 tournaments!! Of the 40 playable leagues: 9 are MLB-level, 11 are minors of parent leagues, and 20 international leagues. The breakdown below is by the numbers:

62: The amount of countries that have participated in tournaments thru 1980!
40: Playable leagues
24: The amount of countries that currently participate in the Baseball World Cup
16: Amount of total tournaments, club and national, that are in-game
11: amount of minor leagues
5: Amount of league structures that have a promotion/relegation system in place. From Level to Level 2, or all the way to Level 4 (Hello, Italy!).
4: The amount of leagues with a minor league system in place.
4: Also the amount of leagues in the Italian baseball pyramid.
3: The amount of league-pyramid levels that England and Spain have set up.
1: The one person building the league is actually enjoying doing these listings, as well as building a Google sheet full of results (just order of league/division finish and/or possible playoff finish, etc. No records so far).

I may just make the sheet available to view!

Ilove_Telin54 04-04-2024 10:11 AM

you will releash this Semi-Fictional?

boscoJJ 04-11-2024 02:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ilove_Telin54 (Post 5095746)
you will releash this Semi-Fictional?

What is the meaning of "Releash'?

Ilove_Telin54 04-11-2024 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boscoJJ (Post 5098914)
What is the meaning of "Releash'?

i mean release

Ilove_Telin54 04-11-2024 05:46 PM

because i dont very good english

nutt 04-26-2024 06:19 PM

Quick update: The original broke and I spent the last two weeks rebuilding everything. So, as a teaser, I plan on releasing a BETA "preview" nonetheless called "1970."

You will have the ability to begin a quickstart with any of the leagues and teams that are in the world up until that point.

NOTE: You would have to cycle teams in the Champions and Nations Leagues. If you do not do so, I recommend going into the editor, removing each team, then deleting the league.

If you don't feel like changing up the teams that play in the World Cup (since there's no design in the code to have qualifiers and I manually do them myself with the continental tournaments), you should turn the team selection process to automatically selected by nation talent, which would give you practically the 16 best countries with player quality.

I'll be doing other releases down the road for this for a Road To 2024: 1982 (CL decides to add the Division Series after MLB's 1981 strike), 1996 (CL exceeds while MLB is on strike which begins their ultimate demise by greed and the UL begins play, providing nearly 40 ML teams in North America), 2010, and the final one in 2024.


REMEMBER: This is fictional. MLB or any actual players are not in the game and this is not built from a historical season. If any mentions of MLB are in this, its referring to that other league.

nutt 04-26-2024 07:29 PM

List of Leagues in 1970:

Pyramids
British Baseball Pyramid
  • National Baseball League (ML)
  • British Triple-A League (2D)

Italian Baseball Pyramid
  • Italian Baseball League (ML)
  • Italia Serie A (2D)
  • Italia Serie B (3D)

Dutch Baseball Pyramid
  • Honkbal Hoofdklasse (ML)
  • Honkbal Overgangsklasse (2D)

non-pyramid Major Leagues
Continental League (North America, AAA/AA/A/R)
French Elite Baseball (no minors)
Spanish Baseball League (no minors)
Indian Premier League (one AA league)
Cuban League (locked, non-movement)
Japanese Pro Baseball Organization (tehsuigi's creation; see more on his post-will link later)

International Leagues:
West German Baseball Bundesliga
Belgian Baseball League
Mexican League
Welsh Premiership
Baseball Philippines
Swedish Eliteserien
Egyptian Premier League
Federation Tunisienne de Baseball (Tunisia)

International Tournaments:
World Cup (next edition is 1971)
Amateur World Series
Asian Baseball Championship
European Baseball Championship
Pan American Championship
Pan American Baseball Classic
World Cup Qualifiers
South American Championship

Multi-Sport Events that have baseball:
Pan American Games
Central American and Caribbean Games
Bolivarian Games

Club Tournaments:
European Champions League (all nine league champions plus the ECL and ENL Champions)
European Nations League (regular season best record or next best from eight of the nine European teams)

What is locked, non-movement? Reserve Clause with no players allowed to leave league or free agents to join league.

Ilove_Telin54 05-01-2024 05:15 PM

hey nutt why team quincy queen is duplicate

https://i.imgur.com/sGtSe61.png

dannymac420 05-02-2024 08:05 AM

This is amazing! I did something similar with a league starting from 1800 that expanded all over the world, but not quite to this level of detail! Although I have feeder leagues for every league that really slows it down lol

Gonna have it sim to 2024 and take a look at the results. Love it though man awesome work!

nutt 05-06-2024 09:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ilove_Telin54 (Post 5104346)
hey nutt why team quincy queen is duplicate

https://i.imgur.com/sGtSe61.png

Great catch. I never noticed that until now. It was supposed to be another MiLB team.


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