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stan-theman 11-24-2024 08:28 AM

Lack of posts on forum !!!!
 
Less than 25 posts on forum this month..When PT first started PT18 or 19 first few years there were always lots of talk on the forum you coud get info-tips-some people had nice spreadsheets of how players were doing .Seems kinda dead now .
To me it was really helpful because unless you have a lot of pesos in your pocket its hard to compete
Thanks and hope everyone has a good Turkey Day

daves 11-24-2024 12:52 PM

Most have utilized Discord. I agree that the forum is more organized, but discord is where many have gone.

bailey 11-24-2024 08:47 PM

The popular private discord forums where actual conversations are possible are as dead as this forum.

daves 11-24-2024 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by bailey (Post 5147932)
The popular private discord forums where actual conversations are possible are as dead as this forum.

This is accurate.

Valhoun 11-27-2024 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by daves (Post 5147961)
This is accurate.

HotL is the big group that has an active discord. In talking with the others, they have all been pretty much done with 25 and waiting to see what combis and other things look like in 26.

daves 12-02-2024 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Valhoun (Post 5148523)
HotL is the big group that has an active discord. In talking with the others, they have all been pretty much done with 25 and waiting to see what combis and other things look like in 26.


Unless you are a groupy, nobody will talk to you.


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xserp3nt 12-10-2024 01:36 AM

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Originally Posted by daves (Post 5149467)
Unless you are a groupy, nobody will talk to you.


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This isn’t true at all..

I joined the discord in June and came in asking questions. Got tons of great insight and tips. We share data.

People literally walked me through a few PD’s and showed me where I was messing up / what could be done better etc.


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BlueSamuraiG 12-10-2024 02:06 AM

Unless we go back in time to 2004, forums are not really that practical anymore when you can get the answers live in discord.


The future is nowwwwwwww


Also, I'm in HOTL we are always taking in new members and are always there to help each other win..idk what Erie Seawolves is talking about

StatsNerd 12-10-2024 09:40 AM

Most of the community has shifted to Discord these days. While forums used to be the go-to spot, real-time chat platforms like Discord have become more popular for quick interactions and sharing tips.

Valhoun 12-13-2024 11:49 AM

I wouldn't be surprised if a good reason this forum still exists is that they need a legal way to publish odds for the spotlight packs so they don't violate gacha regulations.

HRBaker 12-14-2024 01:27 PM

There's other uses for the Forums...
 
Maybe Discord has taken over the "game mechanics" and PT parts of the conversation, but the Forums do a better job with General Discussions, Online Leagues, Fictional Simulations, Dynasties, and Mods. It's difficult to imagine Discord would handle those better.

LeeD 12-14-2024 09:38 PM

Discord fits right in with the younger generations' incessant babbling via text. The only way it really works is if you're constantly, and I mean constantly, on your phone. If not, you'll have to search for the answer to that question you asked twenty minutes ago...hidden among 20 memes and 15 other topics.

Fabtron7 12-14-2024 11:22 PM

I'm sure they said the same thing about television at some point... Times change.

LeeD 12-15-2024 04:12 AM

The problem remains despite your analogy. Discord is a chat service which is poorly suited to questions or deep discussion of game or card issues. Whatever gets typed flies by with no organization or place holders. It's barely if at all an adequate replacement for forums.

HRBaker 12-15-2024 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by LeeD (Post 5151690)
The problem remains despite your analogy. Discord is a chat service which is poorly suited to questions or deep discussion of game or card issues. Whatever gets typed flies by with no organization or place holders. It's barely if at all an adequate replacement for forums.


I agree. To imagine a world where everything is handled by Discord is to discard (pun intended) the value of intensive conversation. Asking how to expand a league might be handled fine on a chat service, but discussing the nuances of combinator cards or setting up a promotion/relegation league is better done on a forum where the answers are documented and recorded to be found later. The forums are a living "history" of past discussions while the "chats" on Discord are long forgotten (and many time not findable) on Discord.

Fabtron7 12-15-2024 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by HRBaker (Post 5151703)
I agree. To imagine a world where everything is handled by Discord is to discard (pun intended) the value of intensive conversation. Asking how to expand a league might be handled fine on a chat service, but discussing the nuances of combinator cards or setting up a promotion/relegation league is better done on a forum where the answers are documented and recorded to be found later. The forums are a living "history" of past discussions while the "chats" on Discord are long forgotten (and many time not findable) on Discord.

There is for sure an argument to be made that people like to transfer and discuss information in different ways (and at different paces), but these conversation are akin to the band that kept playing as the Titanic sank. Like it or not... it's already 90% in the sunk.

From a Perfect Team standpoint there are only three reasons the forums exist.

1. To post patches
2. To post combinator odds (which is probably a legal obligation)
3. Occasionally post about tournament changes (because that's too much of a word-wall to post on Discord and it needs to be shoved somewhere)

Other than that almost all the information/discussion from OOTP regarding perfect team either flows through the Discord of is revealed though their official Twitch streams.

You guys can debate the pros and cons all you want but the train left the station a long time ago and you're still standing at the newspaper stand waiting for a shoe shine.

quizkid 12-15-2024 09:50 AM

FAB, you forgot the other main reason that the forums still exist: it is where the developers live, for the most part.

Fabtron7 12-15-2024 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by quizkid (Post 5151708)
FAB, you forgot the other main reason that the forums still exist: it is where the developers live, for the most part.

Totally, and mostly true! But that's more of a base game thing. I'm speaking exclusively about the PT experience.

HRBaker 12-15-2024 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Fabtron7 (Post 5151705)
There is for sure an argument to be made that people like to transfer and discuss information in different ways (and at different paces), but these conversation are akin to the band that kept playing as the Titanic sank. Like it or not... it's already 90% in the sunk.

From a Perfect Team standpoint there are only three reasons the forums exist.

1. To post patches
2. To post combinator odds (which is probably a legal obligation)
3. Occasionally post about tournament changes (because that's too much of a word-wall to post on Discord and it needs to be shoved somewhere)

Other than that almost all the information/discussion from OOTP regarding perfect team either flows through the Discord of is revealed though their official Twitch streams.

You guys can debate the pros and cons all you want but the train left the station a long time ago and you're still standing at the newspaper stand waiting for a shoe shine.

Maybe the reason I (and those of us from the older generation) have a hard time reading your posts Fab, is because there's an undercurrent of "you old guys just have to accept it"-type shadowing. Old or not, we have as much of a valid opinion as you, and discounting ours because we're "old" doesn't lie well for a fair and even discussion. Yes, the day will come when you "young folks" will drive the technology - maybe you already do - but we're not gone yet and telling us we don't fit any longer doesn't solve the problem, does it... and it's rather insulting.

Fabtron7 12-15-2024 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by HRBaker (Post 5151769)
Maybe the reason I (and those of us from the older generation) have a hard time reading your posts Fab, is because there's an undercurrent of "you old guys just have to accept it"-type shadowing. Old or not, we have as much of a valid opinion as you, and discounting ours because we're "old" doesn't lie well for a fair and even discussion. Yes, the day will come when you "young folks" will drive the technology - maybe you already do - but we're not gone yet and telling us we don't fit any longer doesn't solve the problem, does it... and it's rather insulting.

It’s not a old or young thing… in my life I’ve listened to music on vinyl records, 8-tracks, cassette tapes, CD’s, iPods and now I stream everything.

There’s a part of me that misses something about all of those antiquated technologies… but they’ve been left in the dust.

It has nothing to do with my age (which is not all that young at all) more that if you’re not moving forward you’re moving backward.


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