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Old 12-11-2005, 09:20 PM   #138
sebastian0622
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I'm all about discussing the issue at hand, which apparently is my claim that Moss, T.O., and Johnson are worth 15-20 QB rating points:

-Culpepper has played significantly worse without Moss? check.

-McNabb has played significantly worse without T.O.? check.

-Garica has played significantly worse without T.O.? check.

-Kitna played significantly better with Johnson? check.

-Collins is having one of the best years of his career in 2005 with Moss? check.

You can argue about the level of "significantly" better or worse, but basically you're trying to hold onto Collins' performance this year as some indubitable rejection of my theory, when there is plenty to support that Collins is playing light years better this year than last year. So your "evidence" is tenuous at best (oh, and before Randy got hurt, Collins put up game ratings of 95, 93, 100, 88--about 20 points higher than his career average; plus the Raiders have an extremely difficult schedule.). And even if you were to prove that a healthy Moss wouldn't have a tremendous impact on Collins (which would be ridiculous in light of the data), you'd still have the problem of explaining Culpepper, McNabb, Garcia, and Kitna.

I guess I fail to see why my claim is so ludicrous.
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