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dougaiton · 06-20-2006, 04:15 PM

Some results: 8 year sim, 1 league, 1 div, six teams, five round draft:

Assuming 40 players kept after original draft, 40 draftees since, thus meaning every combined below 80 can be guessed retired/retired injured (using RMY's injury file, so should be minimal). Obviously, not all retired can be linked to age, many may have retired due to being released and not being picked up. However, it's important that we indicate there is big turnover going on, and that there is a shortage of older players.

Atlanta Arsenal: 25 on roster, 25 on reserve; 30 presumed retired
6 on active roster >30; 5 on reserve >30

Boston Baboons, 25 on roster, 24 on reserve, 31 presumed retired
7 on active roster>30; 6 on reserve>30

El Paso; 25, 18, presumed retired 37
5 on active roster, 4 on reserve

Los Angeles, 25 on active, 31 on reserve, 24 pr. ret.
4 on active roster, none on reserve roster

New Orleans, 25 on active, 27 on reserve, 28 presumed ret.
8 on active roster, 2 on reserve

Pheonix, 25 on active, 25 reserve, 30 presumed ret.
6 on active, 3 on reserve

To make a little more sense of this, the average team has six players over 30. That's not shocking, although it's too few, but what gets me is that because of the lack of players on the reserve lists, of 300 players in the league, only 56 are over 30, and 170 players have disappeared from the game. Considering the evidence, it seems wise to link the two together - all the old people are leaving, quickly. Moreover, we're only eight years in here.

This is very rough working, but it's just intended as a quick guide to show that a big draft for a small league means that veterans disappear quicker, and too quickly. Within 8 years, the league is well on its way to having been completely refreshed. I'll update after the next ten years, and see the average ages.

EDIT: The basic point is that even after only eight years of five-round draft, a league without minors will have a huge player turnover and a shortage of veterans. My theory is after 15-20 years, players over 30 will become a virtual rarity.

06-20-2006, 04:15 PM	#5
dougaiton Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Location: Posts: 3,414	Some results: 8 year sim, 1 league, 1 div, six teams, five round draft: Assuming 40 players kept after original draft, 40 draftees since, thus meaning every combined below 80 can be guessed retired/retired injured (using RMY's injury file, so should be minimal). Obviously, not all retired can be linked to age, many may have retired due to being released and not being picked up. However, it's important that we indicate there is big turnover going on, and that there is a shortage of older players. Atlanta Arsenal: 25 on roster, 25 on reserve; 30 presumed retired 6 on active roster >30; 5 on reserve >30 Boston Baboons, 25 on roster, 24 on reserve, 31 presumed retired 7 on active roster>30; 6 on reserve>30 El Paso; 25, 18, presumed retired 37 5 on active roster, 4 on reserve Los Angeles, 25 on active, 31 on reserve, 24 pr. ret. 4 on active roster, none on reserve roster New Orleans, 25 on active, 27 on reserve, 28 presumed ret. 8 on active roster, 2 on reserve Pheonix, 25 on active, 25 reserve, 30 presumed ret. 6 on active, 3 on reserve To make a little more sense of this, the average team has six players over 30. That's not shocking, although it's too few, but what gets me is that because of the lack of players on the reserve lists, of 300 players in the league, only 56 are over 30, and 170 players have disappeared from the game. Considering the evidence, it seems wise to link the two together - all the old people are leaving, quickly. Moreover, we're only eight years in here. This is very rough working, but it's just intended as a quick guide to show that a big draft for a small league means that veterans disappear quicker, and too quickly. Within 8 years, the league is well on its way to having been completely refreshed. I'll update after the next ten years, and see the average ages. EDIT: The basic point is that even after only eight years of five-round draft, a league without minors will have a huge player turnover and a shortage of veterans. My theory is after 15-20 years, players over 30 will become a virtual rarity. __________________ tThis shower of clowns My park-adjusted, historically split Born in '69 league file! (also at Joe's wonderful site +BBSC) Last edited by dougaiton; 06-20-2006 at 04:18 PM.