Thread: Scoring Error
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Old 08-21-2006, 02:28 PM   #9
Zeyes
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Originally Posted by CalvinHobbes
OK, thinking about this further, rule 3a says a pitcher enters a game with a lead of no more than three runs and pitches a full inning; that could be a save situation. However in several, if not all, of those boxscores the pitcher credited with a blown save did not even pitch a full inning.
No, it goes like this: Section (3) defines the three alternative requirements for a save opportunity to arise. Sections (1) and (2) define additional requirements for a save to be credited.

As far as I can tell, there's only one unclear spot in how holds are credited: As per (3a), you cannot earn a save if you come into the game up by 3 runs with nobody on base, when you go less than a full inning. I think it may be possible to earn a hold that way, but it's really hard to find a box score manually that supports or contradicts that conjecture. At any rate, when the team is up by just one or two runs, even a one-out save is possible [as per (3b)], so obviously one-out holds are also possible.

Edit: Okay, scefalu's post reminded me there's one other spot that's unclear, about blown saves in particular:

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Originally Posted by scefalu
It's easier to get a blown save than a save ... all you have to do is give up the lead.
Do you know if it's possible to get a blown save when it wasn't a save opportunity in the first place, e.g. up by 4 runs with nobody on? I've been having trouble finding examples for that, too...most managers aren't dumb enough to leave a reliever in long enough to give up a 4 or 5-run lead.

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