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Old 05-03-2008, 08:17 AM   #22
KurtBevacqua
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My own feeling is that as a player he was certainly deserving. However he did take money, that is really not in question. Now under what circumstances in which he took the money is very much in doubt and will likely never be answered to any degree of certainty. It's one man's theory against another's. He also likely did commit perjury in his civil suit against the White Sox organization. He was never formally charged, but the evidence of perjury was strong enough for a judge to use it as his basis for overturning a jury's decision.

I believe there is enough circumstantial evidence to show that Joe, whether or not he actually helped throw the games, was a part of and aware of the plot. To what degree he actually understood it is open to debate and will never be known. Regardless it would seem he had more than enough information at his disposal to be reasonably able to understand what was going on. If indeed he figured it out and tried to give the money back and wanted no part of it then why did he lie on the stand in his civil trial?

I agree with jdawgsenior that because he took the money the burden of proof falls on Joe to prove otherwise, and he failed miserably in that effort. Therefore I agree that Joe should not go into the Hall of Fame.
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