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RchW · 02-06-2009, 05:37 PM

Help me understand better. In the OOTP league, are you playing out or watching every game in order to see these double steals? I've played out well over 2000 games and can only remember 3 or 4 against while I've tried 10-20. I'm not saying your wrong but you need to quantify at least a seasons worth of data IMO

Beware of small sample sizes, not only can they mislead but they are often flat wrong.

Do you count a missed run and hit or hit and run with two on base as a double steal? What about a botched sacrifice? It would show up in the stats as 2 SB (or 1SB 1CS or an error) but there would be no way to tell the intent. Without knowing intent It cannot count as a double steal.

It seems to me that in the low scoring era of the 60's there would be a high possibility of putting runners in motion to find holes and generate offense but I didn't see enough games to know for sure.

IRL for the 60's how can you tell what play was on? Game logs? Certainly not stats. So where did you get the once or twice per season IRL?

I'm not trying to shoot this down but I feel that when we (players) make posts on authenticity or reality of specific play results in the game, we need to back it up with numbers that can be verified.

02-06-2009, 05:37 PM	#2
RchW Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Toronto ON by way of Glasgow UK Posts: 15,629	Help me understand better. In the OOTP league, are you playing out or watching every game in order to see these double steals? I've played out well over 2000 games and can only remember 3 or 4 against while I've tried 10-20. I'm not saying your wrong but you need to quantify at least a seasons worth of data IMO Beware of small sample sizes, not only can they mislead but they are often flat wrong. Do you count a missed run and hit or hit and run with two on base as a double steal? What about a botched sacrifice? It would show up in the stats as 2 SB (or 1SB 1CS or an error) but there would be no way to tell the intent. Without knowing intent It cannot count as a double steal. It seems to me that in the low scoring era of the 60's there would be a high possibility of putting runners in motion to find holes and generate offense but I didn't see enough games to know for sure. IRL for the 60's how can you tell what play was on? Game logs? Certainly not stats. So where did you get the once or twice per season IRL? I'm not trying to shoot this down but I feel that when we (players) make posts on authenticity or reality of specific play results in the game, we need to back it up with numbers that can be verified. __________________ Cheers RichW If you’re looking for a good cause to donate money to please consider a Donation to Parkinson’s Canada. It may help me have a better future and if not me, someone else. Thanks. “Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition …There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.” Frank Wilhoit