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Originally Posted by kq76

Interesting. It sounds like there's a mutiny going on with the players vs the manager. In my two decades plus of watching baseball, I don't think I've ever heard of such a big problem between players and manager. I guess Gaston is next in line for the guillotine.

I'd bet money the folks complaining are largely the ones sucking ass.

Originally Posted by darkcloud4579

He was never a long term solution anyway. I mean, he's a nice stopgap and I appreciate them bringing him back, but he's well past his days as an effective manager.

Compared to whose replaced him between his first and second incarnation, I dont' hold much, if any faith in them hiring anyone better.

Originally Posted by darkcloud4579

The game is different and the players are WAY different and his methods as a player-manager type just aren't going to work with a team that's not winning like the Jays of old used to.

Could they have really done any better with another manager? Probably not. Not trying to be a Gaston apologist, but the record, and the current staff not comparing to when the Jays were good doesn't hurt.