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JCWeb · 12-30-2009, 01:32 PM

Now putting together the schedule for Nov. 1927, so back to the recent feature of all-time peak Perf Pts for retired fighters, on to the WW division:

1485 Art Magirl (WBA Champ 1916-20)
1351 Jack Britton (WBA Champ 1909-11, 1912-13, 1914-15, 1920)
1178 Albert Badoud (EBU Champ) Highest Rank: 2
1174 Willie Loughlin (WBA Champ 1921) Highest Rank: 3
1059 Dick Nelson (WBA Champ 1914, 1915) Highest Rank: 2
1043 Dixie Kid (WBA Champ 1905-06, 1908-09, 1911)
1031 Johnny Alberts (NABF Champ) Highest Rank: 6
1011 Joe Gans (WBA Champ 1906-08, 1911-12) also LW Champ
1006 Willie Lewis (NABF, USBA Champ) Highest Rank: 2
972 Johnny Basham (CBU, GBU Champ) Highest Rank: 4
956 Kid Graves (No Titles) Highest Rank: 4
918 Young Peter Jackson (WBA Champ 1899-1900, 1901-02, 1902-03)
912 Johnny Summers (CBU, GBU, EBU Champ) Highest Rank: 1
909 Kyle Whitney (USBA Champ) Highest Rank: 7
893 Mike "Twin" Sullivan (NABF, USBA Champ) Highest Rank: 1
869 Jimmy Gardner (WBA Champ 1903-04)
866 Joe Walcott (WBA Champ 1897-98, 1900-01, 1903, 1904-05)
850 Mysterious Billy Smith (WBA Champ 1892-93, 1897, 1900)
826 Mike Glover (No Titles) Highest Rank: 3
804 Honey Mellody (USBA Champ) Highest Rank: 1

Comment: A bit of an ahistorical result here, to see the "Oklahoma Whirlwind," Art Magirl, top the list by virtue of a long four-year reign at the top. (In real life Magirl never got a title shot, only fought a couple of top WWs before moving up in weight.) Britton, who would have been the logical candidate to occupy the top spot based on historical results, winds up second-best. Ratings inflation in later years means some of the earlier Champs, like Walcott, Gans, and Young Peter Jackson, are underrated on this list. Still waiting to see where Ted Kid Lewis and Packey McFarland, aging vets who are still active, wind up. Real-life Champs who did not make the list include: Rube Ferns (missed by two PP, with all-time high of 798), Matty Matthews (earlier titleholder who never got above 600), Waldemar Holberg (EBU Champ who never got above 790 PP), Tom McCormick (came nowhere near a title in my Uni), and Matt Wells (got to 741 PP winning several lesser belts).

12-30-2009, 01:32 PM	#695
JCWeb Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 2,100	All-Time WW Peak PP Ratings Now putting together the schedule for Nov. 1927, so back to the recent feature of all-time peak Perf Pts for retired fighters, on to the WW division: 1485 Art Magirl (WBA Champ 1916-20) 1351 Jack Britton (WBA Champ 1909-11, 1912-13, 1914-15, 1920) 1178 Albert Badoud (EBU Champ) Highest Rank: 2 1174 Willie Loughlin (WBA Champ 1921) Highest Rank: 3 1059 Dick Nelson (WBA Champ 1914, 1915) Highest Rank: 2 1043 Dixie Kid (WBA Champ 1905-06, 1908-09, 1911) 1031 Johnny Alberts (NABF Champ) Highest Rank: 6 1011 Joe Gans (WBA Champ 1906-08, 1911-12) also LW Champ 1006 Willie Lewis (NABF, USBA Champ) Highest Rank: 2 972 Johnny Basham (CBU, GBU Champ) Highest Rank: 4 956 Kid Graves (No Titles) Highest Rank: 4 918 Young Peter Jackson (WBA Champ 1899-1900, 1901-02, 1902-03) 912 Johnny Summers (CBU, GBU, EBU Champ) Highest Rank: 1 909 Kyle Whitney (USBA Champ) Highest Rank: 7 893 Mike "Twin" Sullivan (NABF, USBA Champ) Highest Rank: 1 869 Jimmy Gardner (WBA Champ 1903-04) 866 Joe Walcott (WBA Champ 1897-98, 1900-01, 1903, 1904-05) 850 Mysterious Billy Smith (WBA Champ 1892-93, 1897, 1900) 826 Mike Glover (No Titles) Highest Rank: 3 804 Honey Mellody (USBA Champ) Highest Rank: 1 Comment: A bit of an ahistorical result here, to see the "Oklahoma Whirlwind," Art Magirl, top the list by virtue of a long four-year reign at the top. (In real life Magirl never got a title shot, only fought a couple of top WWs before moving up in weight.) Britton, who would have been the logical candidate to occupy the top spot based on historical results, winds up second-best. Ratings inflation in later years means some of the earlier Champs, like Walcott, Gans, and Young Peter Jackson, are underrated on this list. Still waiting to see where Ted Kid Lewis and Packey McFarland, aging vets who are still active, wind up. Real-life Champs who did not make the list include: Rube Ferns (missed by two PP, with all-time high of 798), Matty Matthews (earlier titleholder who never got above 600), Waldemar Holberg (EBU Champ who never got above 790 PP), Tom McCormick (came nowhere near a title in my Uni), and Matt Wells (got to 741 PP winning several lesser belts).