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thehef · 11-17-2011, 09:35 PM

In my historical league where I'm pretty much hands-off, running straight thru from 1920 until the early 70's, I am wondering about the following:

Willie Davis spent most of the 65, 66, and 72 seasons on the reserve roster. This is despite only small dips in ratings in 65 & 66, no real dip for 72; and not having superior options - as far as I can tell - in centerfield on those Dodger teams... ('65 featured Crawford & L. Johnson starting in CF; in '66 it was Crawford, and 72's OF was Paciorek LF, Crawford CF, F. Robinson RF).

Claude Osteen, after some solid seasons as a starter including nice, realistic stats in 1966, was relegated to the bullpen from 67 on. Starting Dodger staffs were then:

67: Koufax, Drysdale, Singer, Alan Foster
68: Koufax, Drysdale, Singer, Sutton (ok maybe a tough rotation to crack)
69: Singer, Sutton, Koufax, Foster/Bunning
70: Sutton, Koufax, Foster, Singer/Drysdale
71: Sutton, Singer, Downing, Koufax
72: Sutton, Singer, John, Joe Moeller

The 1972 Red Sox predominantly started Tommy Harper at 2B, Yaz at 3B, and Petrocelli at SS, when - in real life - their infield was nothing like that. Luis Aparicio's sim-retirement surely had something to do with that, but Harper at 2B and the left-handed Yaz starting over 150 games at 3B?

Bobby Murcer, 1970
real life = CF 155 games
Sim = Yankees' regular 3B

Who was in CF instead of Murcer?
Ron Woods:
real life = CF 9 games, LF 2, with .227 avg
Sim = Yankees' regular CF, 130 games, .271, 20 HR

Other than Aparicio's retirement and Koufax' non-retirement, I couldn't find injuries or anything else to explain these, and they are just examples. I have seen similar... And if I did find ratings to explain these, then at least that would make some sense...

My settings are as follows:

player & picture options
batter/pitcher aging & development speeds = 1.000
talent change randomness = 1
disable player development = checked (yes)

AI options
lineup selection = traditional
AI player eval options = defaults

Roster Rules = defaults, 25/40, etc.

Historical Rules
using real txns
not using historical lineups
auto-expand league is on
base roles/positions on RL stats - yes
auto-adjust league strategy - was No until early 60's (by accident), but is now Yes
retire acccgd to history - no
players miss seasons accdg to history - no

player ratings
recalc based upon real status after each year - yes
ratings recalc base = 3 yrs
double weight of curr yr stats = no
base ratings on neutralized stats
base potential ratings on remaining yrs of career
base rookie fielding ratings on 3-yr period
base pitcher stamina on 3-yr period
auto-adjust modifiers after each season = Y

nothing tinkered with in Strategy settings... player database is the one in the game...

Although I don't mind some variation - especially when it's explainable due to injury, retirements, or whatever, I'm looking for players to play their positions & assume roles closer to history. Any ideas if any settings might be wrong, etc.?

11-17-2011, 09:35 PM	#1
thehef Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 5,379	Historical questions In my historical league where I'm pretty much hands-off, running straight thru from 1920 until the early 70's, I am wondering about the following: Willie Davis spent most of the 65, 66, and 72 seasons on the reserve roster. This is despite only small dips in ratings in 65 & 66, no real dip for 72; and not having superior options - as far as I can tell - in centerfield on those Dodger teams... ('65 featured Crawford & L. Johnson starting in CF; in '66 it was Crawford, and 72's OF was Paciorek LF, Crawford CF, F. Robinson RF). Claude Osteen, after some solid seasons as a starter including nice, realistic stats in 1966, was relegated to the bullpen from 67 on. Starting Dodger staffs were then: 67: Koufax, Drysdale, Singer, Alan Foster 68: Koufax, Drysdale, Singer, Sutton (ok maybe a tough rotation to crack) 69: Singer, Sutton, Koufax, Foster/Bunning 70: Sutton, Koufax, Foster, Singer/Drysdale 71: Sutton, Singer, Downing, Koufax 72: Sutton, Singer, John, Joe Moeller The 1972 Red Sox predominantly started Tommy Harper at 2B, Yaz at 3B, and Petrocelli at SS, when - in real life - their infield was nothing like that. Luis Aparicio's sim-retirement surely had something to do with that, but Harper at 2B and the left-handed Yaz starting over 150 games at 3B? Bobby Murcer, 1970 real life = CF 155 games Sim = Yankees' regular 3B Who was in CF instead of Murcer? Ron Woods: real life = CF 9 games, LF 2, with .227 avg Sim = Yankees' regular CF, 130 games, .271, 20 HR Other than Aparicio's retirement and Koufax' non-retirement, I couldn't find injuries or anything else to explain these, and they are just examples. I have seen similar... And if I did find ratings to explain these, then at least that would make some sense... My settings are as follows: player & picture options batter/pitcher aging & development speeds = 1.000 talent change randomness = 1 disable player development = checked (yes) AI options lineup selection = traditional AI player eval options = defaults Roster Rules = defaults, 25/40, etc. Historical Rules using real txns not using historical lineups auto-expand league is on base roles/positions on RL stats - yes auto-adjust league strategy - was No until early 60's (by accident), but is now Yes retire acccgd to history - no players miss seasons accdg to history - no player ratings recalc based upon real status after each year - yes ratings recalc base = 3 yrs double weight of curr yr stats = no base ratings on neutralized stats base potential ratings on remaining yrs of career base rookie fielding ratings on 3-yr period base pitcher stamina on 3-yr period auto-adjust modifiers after each season = Y nothing tinkered with in Strategy settings... player database is the one in the game... Although I don't mind some variation - especially when it's explainable due to injury, retirements, or whatever, I'm looking for players to play their positions & assume roles closer to history. Any ideas if any settings might be wrong, etc.?