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Old 12-27-2011, 06:33 PM   #47
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Originally Posted by PSUColonel View Post
I think this is actually fairly serious. It means AI teams cannot sign/negotiate with any player who was ever placed on waivers during the course of a season.
There is still something wrong with the logic here. This is my understanding of how things work in my leagues.

The AI teams can only negotiate/sign free agents or offer extensions to their own players.

A player on another team who may have cleared waivers is off limits to any team (AI or Human)because he is still under contract to that team. No problem here.

All players who are released and become FA are removed from waivers. That includes all the players above that were previously off limits. No problem here.

Players who are traded are removed from waivers. That makes them signable by the receiving team. Again I see no problem here.

The waiver wire is cleared at the trade deadline (if it's active in the game) since trades after that require waivers. So on Aug 1 or whatever date for a short time, no one is on waivers. No problem with that and if a waiver trade is made the players involved are removed from waivers as indicated above.

Edit, waivers are wiped clean at the start of the playoffs. I just confirmed this in game. I'm also sure that waivers are wiped clean at the start of the regular season but have not confirmed this.

That leaves a very small subset of players which would only be players on the AI team that were put on waivers and cleared but not removed. These players are still under contract so there is little reason to want to negotiate a contract unless they are a pending FA. One would question the risk of putting a pending FA, especially a good one on waivers. The AI does strange things

This problem would last until the trade deadline (if activated) as indicated above. I still question the logic of putting a player on waivers while trying to negotiate an extension. It makes no sense but even if we stipulate this subset of players as a problem it is not even close to the extent claimed above.

To summarize this problem is limited to players already on each AI team still under contract, placed on waivers and who have cleared waivers.

The majority of these players are likely to be minor leaguers who are not yet minor league FA. Some may be minor league FA and others may be 40 man or 25 man roster guys. Of the 40 man and 25 man roster players any with less than 6 years MLB service are safe. The only players who present a risk to the AI team would be a pending FA that the AI wants to offer an extension.


This is my best look at it. I might be wrong. Please feel free to correct any flaws in the argument.
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