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Old 04-06-2012, 01:26 AM   #76
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Originally Posted by ike121212 View Post
Does height really have a relationship to stam or effectiveness? Seems questionable, so I poked around a little bit. No big surprise that SABR explored the topic.


Does a Pitcher's Height Matter

"As you can see in table 1 (Starting Pitching Effectiveness), the data show no evidence of a statistically significant correlation, for starting pitchers, between height (in inches) and any of the customary measures of pitching effectiveness."
And later on the article says:

"While drafted shorter players are just as likely to become established major-league relief pitchers and established major-league pitchers in general, taller pitchers are more likely to become established major-league starting pitchers. "

which to me suggests that shorter pitchers are less likely than taller ones to have high Stamina. The author chalks up that finding to the absence of opportunities for shorter pitchers, but doesn't provide evidence to support that conjecture, so who knows what's really true.

In any case, I found the methodology of the study very questionable, since it never accounts for selection bias. Because there is (well-founded or not) a prejudice in baseball against shorter pitchers, you'd normally expect the shorter pitchers who are actually given an opportunity to be especially gifted to begin with. If an MLB team is choosing between drafting a mediocre short pitcher and a mediocre tall one, it will always pick the tall one. The article never seems to account for that bias, which makes its conclusions pretty questionable.

Further, as this article suggests:

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Originally Posted by endgame View Post
At least one height observation: MLB Innings Pitched by Pitcher's Height
shorter pitchers essentially never pitch many innings in MLB. Now, that article doesn't delve into the reasons, so it's hard to draw conclusions about how OOTP should be modeling things (should there be fewer shorter pitchers, or should shorter pitchers have lower Stamina?), but it's not as if height should be ignored completely if we're interested in modeling real life.
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