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VanillaGorilla · 10-17-2012, 02:05 PM

I do the inductions pre-season, so the 1961 season is yet to be played. 1961 is an expansion season (as will be 1962) and the season goes to 162 games. Impact?

With expansion the Black and Gray Ink will become harder to get. The Black Ink will not be affected so much because there won't be players shooting for top spots from all the added teams. It wouldn't have mattered if Sosa and McGwire played in a 50 team league in 1998, the HR race would be between those two.

However, with added teams more players are making their random debut, so the greats are now more likely to enter, and that will add to Black Ink scarcity, but the Gray Ink is what will really be affected.The players clinging to the 9th and 10th places for Gray Ink points that had no realistic expectation of leading the league in a category now will have additional competition for those slots. The Gray Ink numbers will be spread out more and as the league continues to expand. This is the number that we should see the greater decline in from the entrants. Black Ink will go down, but not as much. When we get 30 teams, then it is a different story.

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Are there Steroids in this league. If there are, then you know Bonds is using them. How else do you explain and additional 168 HRs over his real life total? My, Bobby...what big feet you have!

Bobby Bonds found something in the water and put up stellar numbers to be an easy entrant on the First Ballot standard (though not an Official first ballot entry).

498 HRs (5th), 3205 hits(11th), 1905 RBI (3rd), 1960 R (6th). Evidence that he bulked up is in his 291 SBs, 170 less than in real life. The sins of the Father?

Bobby Bonds was the first player taken in the 1927 draft. In 1928 he won the first of his 7 GGs, ROY, and MVP hitting 30 HRs, 54 doubles, stealing a career high (hmmmmm...who else stole lots of bases early in his career when he was rail thin??) 27 bases. His line of 355/427/625 was good for a npa OPS+ of 179.

NINE times in his career he scored and drove in 100+ runs in the same season. He was never managed by Dusty Baker, so he did win a WS.

A career slash line of 291/365/499 makes for a npa OPS+ of 134.

He had exactly 11,000 ABs in a career that lasted until 1952. However, from 1949 through 1952 he appeared in only 3 games and received just 2 ABs. I guess if REALLY wanted to get to 500 HRs he should have made those last two bats count.

Black Ink: 47 (6)
Gray Ink: 354 (132)
HOFm: 236.5 (66)
HOFs: 65 (36)

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Brett Lawrie was mentioned previously. He is the first player to enter the Hall who's only major league experience is the 2011 season. He enters as an average HOFer for this world with a 5.6 composite.

He won 7 GGs at third base and collected 2961 hits from 1928 through 1946. His 357 HRs place him 14th on the career list at the time of his induction.

In 1930 he racked up 221 hits which included 33 doubles, 29 triples, and 29 home runs posting a nps OPS+ line of 156 (341/395/615). Shoeess Joe was putting together the best season ever by anyone, so Lawrie did not get an MVP that year, or any year in his career. Darn that Joe!

290/340/483, npa OPS+ of 122 are strong HOF numbers. He gets in by virtue of his Gray Ink and HOFs numbers being above the Hall average.

Black: 38
Gray: 236
HOFm: 140
HOFs : 60

10-17-2012, 02:05 PM	#39
VanillaGorilla All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 1,371	Class of 1961: Bonds, Lawrie I do the inductions pre-season, so the 1961 season is yet to be played. 1961 is an expansion season (as will be 1962) and the season goes to 162 games. Impact? With expansion the Black and Gray Ink will become harder to get. The Black Ink will not be affected so much because there won't be players shooting for top spots from all the added teams. It wouldn't have mattered if Sosa and McGwire played in a 50 team league in 1998, the HR race would be between those two. However, with added teams more players are making their random debut, so the greats are now more likely to enter, and that will add to Black Ink scarcity, but the Gray Ink is what will really be affected.The players clinging to the 9th and 10th places for Gray Ink points that had no realistic expectation of leading the league in a category now will have additional competition for those slots. The Gray Ink numbers will be spread out more and as the league continues to expand. This is the number that we should see the greater decline in from the entrants. Black Ink will go down, but not as much. When we get 30 teams, then it is a different story. --------- Are there Steroids in this league. If there are, then you know Bonds is using them. How else do you explain and additional 168 HRs over his real life total? My, Bobby...what big feet you have! Bobby Bonds found something in the water and put up stellar numbers to be an easy entrant on the First Ballot standard (though not an Official first ballot entry). 498 HRs (5th), 3205 hits(11th), 1905 RBI (3rd), 1960 R (6th). Evidence that he bulked up is in his 291 SBs, 170 less than in real life. The sins of the Father? Bobby Bonds was the first player taken in the 1927 draft. In 1928 he won the first of his 7 GGs, ROY, and MVP hitting 30 HRs, 54 doubles, stealing a career high (hmmmmm...who else stole lots of bases early in his career when he was rail thin??) 27 bases. His line of 355/427/625 was good for a npa OPS+ of 179. NINE times in his career he scored and drove in 100+ runs in the same season. He was never managed by Dusty Baker, so he did win a WS. A career slash line of 291/365/499 makes for a npa OPS+ of 134. He had exactly 11,000 ABs in a career that lasted until 1952. However, from 1949 through 1952 he appeared in only 3 games and received just 2 ABs. I guess if REALLY wanted to get to 500 HRs he should have made those last two bats count. Black Ink: 47 (6) Gray Ink: 354 (132) HOFm: 236.5 (66) HOFs: 65 (36) ------------------ Brett Lawrie was mentioned previously. He is the first player to enter the Hall who's only major league experience is the 2011 season. He enters as an average HOFer for this world with a 5.6 composite. He won 7 GGs at third base and collected 2961 hits from 1928 through 1946. His 357 HRs place him 14th on the career list at the time of his induction. In 1930 he racked up 221 hits which included 33 doubles, 29 triples, and 29 home runs posting a nps OPS+ line of 156 (341/395/615). Shoeess Joe was putting together the best season ever by anyone, so Lawrie did not get an MVP that year, or any year in his career. Darn that Joe! 290/340/483, npa OPS+ of 122 are strong HOF numbers. He gets in by virtue of his Gray Ink and HOFs numbers being above the Hall average. Black: 38 Gray: 236 HOFm: 140 HOFs : 60