OOTP Developments Forums - View Single Post

VanillaGorilla · 10-18-2012, 08:54 PM

Re Barry Bonds, no, he has not appeared.

Gus Bell was 7 when Buddy was born. Their careers overlapped by 12 years, most of that time Gus was playing for National League teams while Buddy played for the Giants. They were never teammates, but played on the same field many times. Mike appeared after Buddy retired. He is still active.

Ken Griffey was retired when Jr was born...really retired, age 65. Jr is still active.

Jared Sandberg has appeared, but Uncle Ryne has not.

Tony Gwynn Jr has appeared, but Sr, has not.

I don't keep a list of such things, but I do take notice. Is a fun part of the random debut experience, I agree.

-----------

Mack Jones was not selected by the program's default settings, so he did not get a First Ballot screening when he became eligible. However, he did get screened on his first year of eligibility and he did get in, so he is an Official First Ballot inductee.

Jones debuted in 1937 and called it quits in 1955. In his career he hit 388 HRs to place him 11th all-time.

He accumulated 2319 hits in 2404 games and posted a career slash line of 273/375/478 for a npa OPS+ of 135.

He was an 8 time All Star and won 5 GGs and an MVP in 1940 when he led the league in HRs with 33 and runs scored with 114. He posted a slash line that year of 303/378/544 for a npa OPS+ of 154.

He was a star for the Bees/Braves franchise which went to 6 WS with him, and won 3. He hit 7 HRs in 120 WS ABs and posted a npa OPS+ of 148 in 33 WS games.

He ranks 18th on the career RBI list with 1577. 6 times he drove in in 100 and scored 100 runs in the same season. He also struck out 1191 times, the sixth most for a career.

His Gray Ink and HOFs numbers both exceeded the Hall average.

Black Ink: 33 (0)
Gray Ink: 210 (9)
HOFm: 163 (2)
HOFs: 58 (13)

---------------------

Keith Hernandez didn't get traded at the prime of his career for little more than nothing because of detrimental clubhouse activities in this universe. He did not get blackballed by the writers when he became eligible for the Hall of Fame in this universe, either.

If the question is asked : "Who is the best fielding first baseman you ever saw?" I reply in a nanosecond that it is Keith Hernandez. No one else enters the argument. He was that good.

He "only" won 5 GGs here, instead of the 11 IRL, Hernandez gets in with an offensive resume (as opposed to the offensive resume that kept him from RL consideration).

From 1937 through 1954 Hernandez batted .303 while collecting 3073 hits. His career OBP of .395 is 18th best. He slugged .452 for a npa OPS+ of 134.

He hit 233 HRs while that still meant something (44th All-Time, tied with original inductee Duke Snider, who entered as the all-time leader).

He won the Rookie of the Year with a 331/408/481 line.

He won 3 WS with 3 different teams. In his final year, he won one with the Cardinals.

Like Jones, Hernandez gets in with his Gray Ink and HOFs numbers being above the Hall average.

Black: 12 (14)
Gray: 245 (118)
HOFm: 164.5 (86)
HOFs: 55 (32)

---------------

Pedro Martinez gets in on his first ballot with the first ballot standard. His numbers in all four categories exceed the Hall average.

Martinez was the ace of the Athletic team I was managing, before I got fired. I take credit for notching him win #300. I had great fun when he was paired against a young Whitey Ford. Twice the result was 1-0 (one each way). The AI made a trade for Mariano Rivera, and thought it was cool to see both names in the box score. Also, a second basemen/ left fielder named Delino Deshields won a batting title while playing on the same team as Pedro. Nice.

Pedro debuted in 1935 and retired in 1956. He went 346-233 with 19 saves (he led the league in saves his rookie season), and an OOTP ERA of 3.36. He won the 11th most games, all-time. He pitched 44 shutouts, 15th best. Pitching in an low K era, his 3435 strikeouts are the 5th most.

A 3 time Cy Young winner and 12 time All-Star, Martinez won 2 WS in 3 tries, including one in his last season.

He won 30 games in 1942, something no player had done since the turn of the century, and something only achieved once, since.

ADD: With 409, Pedro gave up more home runs than any pitcher in the Hall and is 5th All-Time in HRA.

Black: 92 (58)
Gray: 289 (215)
HOFm: 223.5 (206)
HOFs: 58 (60)

10-18-2012, 08:54 PM	#41
VanillaGorilla All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 1,371	Class of 1962: Jones, Hernandez, Martinez Re Barry Bonds, no, he has not appeared. Gus Bell was 7 when Buddy was born. Their careers overlapped by 12 years, most of that time Gus was playing for National League teams while Buddy played for the Giants. They were never teammates, but played on the same field many times. Mike appeared after Buddy retired. He is still active. Ken Griffey was retired when Jr was born...really retired, age 65. Jr is still active. Jared Sandberg has appeared, but Uncle Ryne has not. Tony Gwynn Jr has appeared, but Sr, has not. I don't keep a list of such things, but I do take notice. Is a fun part of the random debut experience, I agree. ----------- Mack Jones was not selected by the program's default settings, so he did not get a First Ballot screening when he became eligible. However, he did get screened on his first year of eligibility and he did get in, so he is an Official First Ballot inductee. Jones debuted in 1937 and called it quits in 1955. In his career he hit 388 HRs to place him 11th all-time. He accumulated 2319 hits in 2404 games and posted a career slash line of 273/375/478 for a npa OPS+ of 135. He was an 8 time All Star and won 5 GGs and an MVP in 1940 when he led the league in HRs with 33 and runs scored with 114. He posted a slash line that year of 303/378/544 for a npa OPS+ of 154. He was a star for the Bees/Braves franchise which went to 6 WS with him, and won 3. He hit 7 HRs in 120 WS ABs and posted a npa OPS+ of 148 in 33 WS games. He ranks 18th on the career RBI list with 1577. 6 times he drove in in 100 and scored 100 runs in the same season. He also struck out 1191 times, the sixth most for a career. His Gray Ink and HOFs numbers both exceeded the Hall average. Black Ink: 33 (0) Gray Ink: 210 (9) HOFm: 163 (2) HOFs: 58 (13) --------------------- Keith Hernandez didn't get traded at the prime of his career for little more than nothing because of detrimental clubhouse activities in this universe. He did not get blackballed by the writers when he became eligible for the Hall of Fame in this universe, either. If the question is asked : "Who is the best fielding first baseman you ever saw?" I reply in a nanosecond that it is Keith Hernandez. No one else enters the argument. He was that good. He "only" won 5 GGs here, instead of the 11 IRL, Hernandez gets in with an offensive resume (as opposed to the offensive resume that kept him from RL consideration). From 1937 through 1954 Hernandez batted .303 while collecting 3073 hits. His career OBP of .395 is 18th best. He slugged .452 for a npa OPS+ of 134. He hit 233 HRs while that still meant something (44th All-Time, tied with original inductee Duke Snider, who entered as the all-time leader). He won the Rookie of the Year with a 331/408/481 line. He won 3 WS with 3 different teams. In his final year, he won one with the Cardinals. Like Jones, Hernandez gets in with his Gray Ink and HOFs numbers being above the Hall average. Black: 12 (14) Gray: 245 (118) HOFm: 164.5 (86) HOFs: 55 (32) --------------- Pedro Martinez gets in on his first ballot with the first ballot standard. His numbers in all four categories exceed the Hall average. Martinez was the ace of the Athletic team I was managing, before I got fired. I take credit for notching him win #300. I had great fun when he was paired against a young Whitey Ford. Twice the result was 1-0 (one each way). The AI made a trade for Mariano Rivera, and thought it was cool to see both names in the box score. Also, a second basemen/ left fielder named Delino Deshields won a batting title while playing on the same team as Pedro. Nice. Pedro debuted in 1935 and retired in 1956. He went 346-233 with 19 saves (he led the league in saves his rookie season), and an OOTP ERA of 3.36. He won the 11th most games, all-time. He pitched 44 shutouts, 15th best. Pitching in an low K era, his 3435 strikeouts are the 5th most. A 3 time Cy Young winner and 12 time All-Star, Martinez won 2 WS in 3 tries, including one in his last season. He won 30 games in 1942, something no player had done since the turn of the century, and something only achieved once, since. ADD: With 409, Pedro gave up more home runs than any pitcher in the Hall and is 5th All-Time in HRA. Black: 92 (58) Gray: 289 (215) HOFm: 223.5 (206) HOFs: 58 (60) Last edited by VanillaGorilla; 10-20-2012 at 07:13 PM.