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VanillaGorilla · 10-23-2012, 08:11 AM

Vada Pinson was not selected by the software to be inducted, so he did not get a special Firt Ballot Screening. However, on his first year of eligibility he was screened and enters by virtue of his Gray Ink and HOFs numbers both above the Hall average. He is an Official First Ballot Inductee.

2794 hits, 326 Hrs, and a .292 batting average doesn't get you in with the default settings, but these are the numbers Pinson put up to get in.

Like Griffith, he was drafted 9th over all. Like Griffith and Pascual, he won the Rookie of the Year. Unlike his classmates, he did it the year following his selection.

As an 18 year old in 1944, Pinson took the league by storm. He cracked 199 hits, 54 doubles (5th most ever in a season), 22 HRs, 106 RBI, scored 105 runs, and stole 22 bases while posting a slash line of 312/352/534 for a npa OPS+ of 146.

In 1951 he won the league MVP cracking 204 hits, 32 HRs, 112 RBI, scoring 111 and posting 321/372/578 for a npa OPS+ of 160.

In 1957 he led his Washington Senators to a WS title, and posted an OPS of 1.000 for the series. He returned his team to the Fall Classic the following season, but lost in 7 games to the Cubs. Some might argue that if you a lose a WS to the Cubs you should be ineligible for the HOF, but I did not stipulate that as a condition before starting this Hall. I am not going to change the rules in the middle. This is Vada Pinson, not Milkey Cabrerra, after all.....

A 7 time All Star and 6 time GG winner, Pinson hit for the cycle in 1955.

He has a career npa OPS+ of 132.

Black Ink: 27 (18)
Gray Ink: 226 (135)
HOFm: 144 (95)
HOFs: 51 (36)

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No other batter in the spreadsheet had the numbers to enter the Hall, so the Hall Committee went to pluck one from the leader boards. The selection of Willie McGee was one of the most congenial that the Committee has had.

Willie McGee is 7th on the All-Time triples list with 244. Selected 4th overall, he debuted in 1917 and retired in 1933. From 1918 through 1923, he led the league in three baggers each season. The meaningfulness of this accomplishment is appreciated in historical context. Triples are not given much weight in the metrics used for standard entry. However, when you lead the league in triples with 30, and there is one player with 10 HRs that same year, hitting 3 times as many triples but only getting 1/4 of the Black Ink that the HR leader received is a glaring inequity.

McGee collected 2360 hits and scored 1069 runs while posting a npa OPS+ of 120 with a career line of 316/344/443.

He won 1 GG.

Had he still been on the spreadsheet, McGee would have entered on the Veteran Standard, therefore, he is not a floor breaker.

Black: 16 (12)
Gray: 137 (56)
HOFm: 92.5 (84)
HOFs: 43 (23)

10-23-2012, 08:11 AM	#53
VanillaGorilla All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 1,371	Class of 1969, Hitters: Pinson, McGee Vada Pinson was not selected by the software to be inducted, so he did not get a special Firt Ballot Screening. However, on his first year of eligibility he was screened and enters by virtue of his Gray Ink and HOFs numbers both above the Hall average. He is an Official First Ballot Inductee. 2794 hits, 326 Hrs, and a .292 batting average doesn't get you in with the default settings, but these are the numbers Pinson put up to get in. Like Griffith, he was drafted 9th over all. Like Griffith and Pascual, he won the Rookie of the Year. Unlike his classmates, he did it the year following his selection. As an 18 year old in 1944, Pinson took the league by storm. He cracked 199 hits, 54 doubles (5th most ever in a season), 22 HRs, 106 RBI, scored 105 runs, and stole 22 bases while posting a slash line of 312/352/534 for a npa OPS+ of 146. In 1951 he won the league MVP cracking 204 hits, 32 HRs, 112 RBI, scoring 111 and posting 321/372/578 for a npa OPS+ of 160. In 1957 he led his Washington Senators to a WS title, and posted an OPS of 1.000 for the series. He returned his team to the Fall Classic the following season, but lost in 7 games to the Cubs. Some might argue that if you a lose a WS to the Cubs you should be ineligible for the HOF, but I did not stipulate that as a condition before starting this Hall. I am not going to change the rules in the middle. This is Vada Pinson, not Milkey Cabrerra, after all..... A 7 time All Star and 6 time GG winner, Pinson hit for the cycle in 1955. He has a career npa OPS+ of 132. Black Ink: 27 (18) Gray Ink: 226 (135) HOFm: 144 (95) HOFs: 51 (36) -------------- No other batter in the spreadsheet had the numbers to enter the Hall, so the Hall Committee went to pluck one from the leader boards. The selection of Willie McGee was one of the most congenial that the Committee has had. Willie McGee is 7th on the All-Time triples list with 244. Selected 4th overall, he debuted in 1917 and retired in 1933. From 1918 through 1923, he led the league in three baggers each season. The meaningfulness of this accomplishment is appreciated in historical context. Triples are not given much weight in the metrics used for standard entry. However, when you lead the league in triples with 30, and there is one player with 10 HRs that same year, hitting 3 times as many triples but only getting 1/4 of the Black Ink that the HR leader received is a glaring inequity. McGee collected 2360 hits and scored 1069 runs while posting a npa OPS+ of 120 with a career line of 316/344/443. He won 1 GG. Had he still been on the spreadsheet, McGee would have entered on the Veteran Standard, therefore, he is not a floor breaker. Black: 16 (12) Gray: 137 (56) HOFm: 92.5 (84) HOFs: 43 (23) Last edited by VanillaGorilla; 10-23-2012 at 08:13 AM.