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VanillaGorilla · 11-19-2012, 01:21 AM

There have been two Bakers and two Johnsons inducted into the HOF. Now there are two Crawfords as RL HOFer Sam Crawford joins Willie in the Hall.

Sam Crawford was the 5th player selected by the New York Mets in the 1964 draft. He proved to be a good selection right away as he won ROY in 1965 by hitting 49 HRs and driving in 116. Both of these numbers would stand as career highs. 290/353/575 was good for a npa OPS+ of 166.

In 1968 he led the Mets to a Miracle WS win a year sooner than IRL. In 1968 he hit 22 HRs and drove in 82 in a season where those numbers meant a good performance. He also won his only GG that season.

A 14 time All-Star, the RL career triples leader hit 161 3Bers in his career, here, 40th most.

Carawford won 2 batting titles, including one in 1971 with a career best BA of .367.

Crawford collected 3397 hits in a career that lasted through 1985, 15th most. He hit 372 HRs and scored 1727 times (20th) while posting a career line of 308/364/489 for a npa OPS+ of 144.

Crawford enter in his first year of eligibility on the First Ballot screening.

Black Ink: 30 (33)
Gray Ink: 235 (330)
HOFm: 204.5 (118)
HOFs: 69 (53)

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Wow, if Sam Crawford was picked 5th in the 1964 draft, who could have been a worthy pick ahead of him? How about 1964's first pick, Bobby Murcer.

Murcer answers a question I have had, at least partly about fielding positions and using recalc.

Murcer broke in to RL MLB as a SS, but after his second season he made just 2 infield appearances.

Here, Murcer played 2654 games at SS and placing him in an argument for best SS ever, with Honus Wagner. Bobby Murcer?? Really??

Murcer won 3 MVPs. Wagner also won three.

Murcer made 13 All Star teams. Wagner 12.

Murcer won a GG at SS. Wagner won 8...ok, edge to Honus there.

Wagner collected nearly 4000 hits and 276 HRs. Murcer collected 3076 hits and 517 HRs.

Murcer had a 142 npa OPS+, Wagner a 143. That is a rounding error's worth of difference.

A career 288/358/487 slash line is good for anyone, but as a SS, it shortlists you into the 'best ever' conversation. Murcer's 1905 RBI places him 11th on that all-time list.

Murcer's best season was 1971 when he hit a career high .348, a career high 48 HRs, and 141 RBI to win the Triple Crown en route to posting a npa OPS+ of 202.

He helped the Red Sox to 4 consecutive pennants from 1971-1974, and twice more in 1982-83, winning WS in '72, '74, and '82. He is first player in the Hall from any of those teams.

Murcer retired following the 1985 season.

The only asterisk in my mind regarding position eligibility/skill when using recalc comes from the fact that Murcer DNP due to military service for two seasons, IRL, after his second season. In the absence of data, recalc works from the player dev engine. When RL data returned that was absent of SS data, Murcer still fielded that position, here. If this DNP time affected the operations of the sim, I do not know. What I do know is that using recalc does not lock a player into fielding stats from the season's data that is applied by the recalc.

Murcer enters in his first year of eligibility on the First Ballot Screening.

Black: 70 (3)
Gray: 236 (95)
HOFm: 363 (29)
HOFs: 69 (26)

11-19-2012, 01:21 AM	#90
VanillaGorilla All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 1,371	Class of 1991, Hitters: Crawford, Murcer There have been two Bakers and two Johnsons inducted into the HOF. Now there are two Crawfords as RL HOFer Sam Crawford joins Willie in the Hall. Sam Crawford was the 5th player selected by the New York Mets in the 1964 draft. He proved to be a good selection right away as he won ROY in 1965 by hitting 49 HRs and driving in 116. Both of these numbers would stand as career highs. 290/353/575 was good for a npa OPS+ of 166. In 1968 he led the Mets to a Miracle WS win a year sooner than IRL. In 1968 he hit 22 HRs and drove in 82 in a season where those numbers meant a good performance. He also won his only GG that season. A 14 time All-Star, the RL career triples leader hit 161 3Bers in his career, here, 40th most. Carawford won 2 batting titles, including one in 1971 with a career best BA of .367. Crawford collected 3397 hits in a career that lasted through 1985, 15th most. He hit 372 HRs and scored 1727 times (20th) while posting a career line of 308/364/489 for a npa OPS+ of 144. Crawford enter in his first year of eligibility on the First Ballot screening. Black Ink: 30 (33) Gray Ink: 235 (330) HOFm: 204.5 (118) HOFs: 69 (53) -------------------- Wow, if Sam Crawford was picked 5th in the 1964 draft, who could have been a worthy pick ahead of him? How about 1964's first pick, Bobby Murcer. Murcer answers a question I have had, at least partly about fielding positions and using recalc. Murcer broke in to RL MLB as a SS, but after his second season he made just 2 infield appearances. Here, Murcer played 2654 games at SS and placing him in an argument for best SS ever, with Honus Wagner. Bobby Murcer?? Really?? Murcer won 3 MVPs. Wagner also won three. Murcer made 13 All Star teams. Wagner 12. Murcer won a GG at SS. Wagner won 8...ok, edge to Honus there. Wagner collected nearly 4000 hits and 276 HRs. Murcer collected 3076 hits and 517 HRs. Murcer had a 142 npa OPS+, Wagner a 143. That is a rounding error's worth of difference. A career 288/358/487 slash line is good for anyone, but as a SS, it shortlists you into the 'best ever' conversation. Murcer's 1905 RBI places him 11th on that all-time list. Murcer's best season was 1971 when he hit a career high .348, a career high 48 HRs, and 141 RBI to win the Triple Crown en route to posting a npa OPS+ of 202. He helped the Red Sox to 4 consecutive pennants from 1971-1974, and twice more in 1982-83, winning WS in '72, '74, and '82. He is first player in the Hall from any of those teams. Murcer retired following the 1985 season. The only asterisk in my mind regarding position eligibility/skill when using recalc comes from the fact that Murcer DNP due to military service for two seasons, IRL, after his second season. In the absence of data, recalc works from the player dev engine. When RL data returned that was absent of SS data, Murcer still fielded that position, here. If this DNP time affected the operations of the sim, I do not know. What I do know is that using recalc does not lock a player into fielding stats from the season's data that is applied by the recalc. Murcer enters in his first year of eligibility on the First Ballot Screening. Black: 70 (3) Gray: 236 (95) HOFm: 363 (29) HOFs: 69 (26) Last edited by VanillaGorilla; 11-19-2012 at 01:22 AM.