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VanillaGorilla · 12-04-2012, 01:31 AM

RL HOFer Ron Santo enters the league in 2001.

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Ed Delahanty makes his speech for his induction into the HOF at the age of 48. Making the speech and making age 48 are two things he did not accomplish in RL.

Big Ed enters with the 12th most hits ever in the league, 3618. His 779 doubles are the third most in league history.

Delahanty was a late first rd pick in 1971 by the Baltimore Orioles. He was a gun for hire on the Free Agent market, playing for 6 different teams before retiring in 1995. His last big league action came in 1993. On his First Ballot screening, Delahanty enters the Hall.

A 7 time All Star, Delahanty hit .300 6 times in his career, and collected 200 hits in a season 4 times. His best season was in 1987 when he slashed 342/416/636 for the Twins. In the "juiced ball" season, this was good for a npa OPS+ of 173, and the league MVP.

For his career he slashed 287/342/426 for a npa OPS+ of 115 while hitting 261 HRs, driving in 1521 and scoring 1890 (15th). This 115 figure ranks as a huge shocker. Delahanty's RL OPS+ was 153. It is real hard to say that a player with 3600 hits markedly underperformed expectations based on RL, but his career % numbers are surprisingly low.

Delahanty made it to the play-offs 3 times, and helped his team to the WS each time. However, he was never able to capture a title. He hit .310 in 27 post season games.

Black Ink: 39 (59)
Gray Ink: 149 (231)
HOFm: 154 (234)
HOFs: 65 (65)

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Now there are two Williams in the HOF. That one of them is not named Ted is a shock in itself.

Ken Williams enters as a sort of Koufax of hitters. He was dominant for a 5 years stretch, then had recurring shoulder injuries that prematurely ended his career.

How dominant?

From 1982 to 1986 he led the AL in HRs each season. In 1984 he set the record for HRs in a season with 63. During this 5 year span, he scored and drove in at least 110 runs each season for the Red Sox who picked him 5th overall in 1980.

He won 3 MVP awards and was named to 6 All Star teams. He went to 6 post seasons, 3 WS, and won 2 titles.

He is the only HOFer from the 1982 Red Sox championship team. He was a newly signed Free Agent for the 1987 Dodgers who had also aquired Willie Stargell and Rogers Hornsby that off-season.

He retired following the 1995 season, having given the Dodgers one good year on a 7 year deal.

For his career he slashed 286/372/558 for a npa OPS+ of 160 (RL OPS+ 138). He hit 378 HRs in 5218 ABs. This is an off the chart ratio considering that 278 of these HRs came between 1981 and 1986 and that he only hit 7 HRs in 52 games during the 1981 season.

Williams Black/Gray ratio is the most extreme I have seen.

Black: 51 (11)
Gray: 84 (121)
HOFm: 173 (68)
HOFs: 36 (39)

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Back to the Way Back Machine and the leader boards. Kenny Lofton enters at the age of 114, 77 years after retiring in 1924. Lofton was the highest ranking eligible player on any list. He holds the 14th spot on the triple list. Next year, this probably wouldn't have cut it, but the timing works for him.

Is placing 14th on the triple list Hall worthy? Well, in the RL Hall there are 3 players tied for the 15th spot. 2 are HOFers. Everyone above them on the list are in the RL HOF.

Lofton interestingly hit 213 doubles....the same number of triples that he hit.

His 578 SBs puts him 38th on that list.

He was selected 14th overall by Brooklyn in 1908.

For his career he slashed 271/341/388 for a npa OPS+ of 115...the same as Delahanty....another shock.

In his swan song season of 1924, he won a WS with the Yankees joining team mates Eddie Collins and Lance Blankenship in the HOF.

Lofton is a floor breaker.

Black: 7 (15)
Gray: 80 (62)
HOFm: 13.5 (91)
HOFs: 25 (42)

12-04-2012, 01:31 AM	#104
VanillaGorilla All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 1,371	Class of 2001: Delahanty, Williams, Lofton RL HOFer Ron Santo enters the league in 2001. --------------------------- Ed Delahanty makes his speech for his induction into the HOF at the age of 48. Making the speech and making age 48 are two things he did not accomplish in RL. Big Ed enters with the 12th most hits ever in the league, 3618. His 779 doubles are the third most in league history. Delahanty was a late first rd pick in 1971 by the Baltimore Orioles. He was a gun for hire on the Free Agent market, playing for 6 different teams before retiring in 1995. His last big league action came in 1993. On his First Ballot screening, Delahanty enters the Hall. A 7 time All Star, Delahanty hit .300 6 times in his career, and collected 200 hits in a season 4 times. His best season was in 1987 when he slashed 342/416/636 for the Twins. In the "juiced ball" season, this was good for a npa OPS+ of 173, and the league MVP. For his career he slashed 287/342/426 for a npa OPS+ of 115 while hitting 261 HRs, driving in 1521 and scoring 1890 (15th). This 115 figure ranks as a huge shocker. Delahanty's RL OPS+ was 153. It is real hard to say that a player with 3600 hits markedly underperformed expectations based on RL, but his career % numbers are surprisingly low. Delahanty made it to the play-offs 3 times, and helped his team to the WS each time. However, he was never able to capture a title. He hit .310 in 27 post season games. Black Ink: 39 (59) Gray Ink: 149 (231) HOFm: 154 (234) HOFs: 65 (65) ------------------------ Now there are two Williams in the HOF. That one of them is not named Ted is a shock in itself. Ken Williams enters as a sort of Koufax of hitters. He was dominant for a 5 years stretch, then had recurring shoulder injuries that prematurely ended his career. How dominant? From 1982 to 1986 he led the AL in HRs each season. In 1984 he set the record for HRs in a season with 63. During this 5 year span, he scored and drove in at least 110 runs each season for the Red Sox who picked him 5th overall in 1980. He won 3 MVP awards and was named to 6 All Star teams. He went to 6 post seasons, 3 WS, and won 2 titles. He is the only HOFer from the 1982 Red Sox championship team. He was a newly signed Free Agent for the 1987 Dodgers who had also aquired Willie Stargell and Rogers Hornsby that off-season. He retired following the 1995 season, having given the Dodgers one good year on a 7 year deal. For his career he slashed 286/372/558 for a npa OPS+ of 160 (RL OPS+ 138). He hit 378 HRs in 5218 ABs. This is an off the chart ratio considering that 278 of these HRs came between 1981 and 1986 and that he only hit 7 HRs in 52 games during the 1981 season. Williams Black/Gray ratio is the most extreme I have seen. Black: 51 (11) Gray: 84 (121) HOFm: 173 (68) HOFs: 36 (39) --------------------------- Back to the Way Back Machine and the leader boards. Kenny Lofton enters at the age of 114, 77 years after retiring in 1924. Lofton was the highest ranking eligible player on any list. He holds the 14th spot on the triple list. Next year, this probably wouldn't have cut it, but the timing works for him. Is placing 14th on the triple list Hall worthy? Well, in the RL Hall there are 3 players tied for the 15th spot. 2 are HOFers. Everyone above them on the list are in the RL HOF. Lofton interestingly hit 213 doubles....the same number of triples that he hit. His 578 SBs puts him 38th on that list. He was selected 14th overall by Brooklyn in 1908. For his career he slashed 271/341/388 for a npa OPS+ of 115...the same as Delahanty....another shock. In his swan song season of 1924, he won a WS with the Yankees joining team mates Eddie Collins and Lance Blankenship in the HOF. Lofton is a floor breaker. Black: 7 (15) Gray: 80 (62) HOFm: 13.5 (91) HOFs: 25 (42)