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VanillaGorilla · 02-17-2013, 03:53 PM

As I posted on the main board, the expansion Dallas Burn won the WS in their first two seasons as both expansion squads blew up the economic status quo of the league and became instant powerhouses when the teams did not protect their big contract players in their playing primes.

Using league evolution is a new aspect of OOTP for me. Before this past (2020) season, a rule change was implemented that made the minimum DL stay 19 days. I didn't think this was significant enough to note, by itself. Going into the 2011 season, the season has been shortened to 158 games. This, obviously, has an impact on the HOF numbers being tabulated.

This will have no effect on the Ink categories, but this does impact the the HOFm point accumulation, and to a very slight degree, the HOFs accumulation.

This also makes it much more significant when a single season total record is broken, in the future.

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James Shields was drafted by the Rangers with the 7th overall pick in the 1974 draft. He retired following the 1990 season with a career record of 218-165 and an OOTP ERA of 3.38 (npa ERA+ 128).

He struck out 2780 (28th) batters in 3519 1/3 IP while walking 880. He pitched 153 Complete Games (5th) in his career. 35 of those were shutouts (4th).

4 times he won 20 games. For some reason, he was only named to 1 All Star team. That year was 1976. For that season he won 23 games and struck out 340 and posted a npa ERA+ of 198. But he didn't win the Cy Young Award, that season.

He did win the CYA in 1984 in a campaign that saw him post a record of 23-6 and a 3.38 OOTP ERA as a member of the Yankees. East coast bias??? His npa ERA+ that season was a good, but not a typical CYA winning, figure of 128. He was not named to the All-Star team for this season.

In 1977 he was 28-9 in the regular season as he led the Rangers to a WS win. He struck out 272 batters that year while walking only 35. He is the first player to be inducted into the HOF from that Rangers team.

In that 1977 post season, Shields was 3-0 in 4 starts. He struck out 34 men in 30 2/3 IP and walked only 1 batter the entire post season.

In 1979 he started, what stands as the league record, 42 games. His 218 wins places him 19th on the All-Time list.

Shields enters on the Veteran Standard.

Black Ink: 12
Gray Ink: 159
HOFm: 109.4
HOFs: 43

Gorilla Composite: 2.6

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Tony Mullane is a player I expect to be inducted into the RL HOF, eventually. Based on the numbers used for this HOF (the new adjusted ones, which raises the standard whenever I commented on the likes of RL players being RL Hall-worthy in the previous thread) Mullane should be inducted.

Here, there is no need for an argument. Mullane did not get in on his first ballot screening, but were this to be his first year of eligibility, he would have been in on that standard, as all 4 of his numbers are above the current Hall averages. He enters with the highest GC of any pitcher to be inducted, thus far.

Mullane was the first player chosen in the 1975 draft. Taken by the Cardinals, he played with them from 1976-1990. He made stops in San Diego, Baltimore, and Texas before retiring in 1995.

Mullane won 287 games in his career, third most, whil being tagged with 189 losses which gives him a career win% of .6029. His career OOTP ERA of 3.27 makes for a npa ERA+ of 127.

His 3533 strikeouts are 7th most, All-Time. He threw 143 CGs (9th) and 34 shutouts (5th) in his career.

He ranks 5th on the All-Time WAR list. No eligible player ahead of him is not already in the HOF.

In his 1976 debut season, he won ROY honors as he made the Cardinal scouts look good with their recommendation to select Mullane. He went 25-8, OOTP ERA 2.51 (npa ERA+ 149) as he struck out 365 batters in 330 IP while walking only 73.

Mullane appeared as an All Star 6 times and he won 2 CYAs. One was in his rookie 1976 season, the other was in 1980 when he posted career bests in wins, ERA, and ERA+ (26-5, 2.26, 179). He also racked up a career best 6 shutouts in 1980.

He brought the WS trophy to St Louis in 1982 and in 1987. Ralph Branca was on the 1987 winning team. No player, other than Mullane, has been inducted into the HOF, yet.

Black Ink: 65 (28)
Gray Ink: 250 (202)
HOFm: 204.5 (169)
HOFs: 54 (51)

Gorilla Composite: 5.1 (3.7)

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Kevin Mitchell became eligible the same year as Mel Ott. The Selection comittee opted to enter Ott on the first ballot, but bowing to pressure from PETA, the ASPCA, and cat lovers everywhere, they made Mitchell wait.

But they could not keep him out of the Hall, as he was a dominant force for years.

As Bobby Murcer in the previous league played his way into the HOF as a SS while in RL he was an OFer, Mitchell fit this same billing.

Mitchell Played 600 games as an OFer, but he played 1300 games in the IF, with almost 100 games logged at SS. His career EFF of 1.014 a SS is certainly adequate, and if you get a guy that can play adequate SS while smacking 592 career HRs (7th), that's a pretty good deal.

Taken as the 5th player in the 2001 draft by the Phillies, Mitchell remained in Philadelphia through the 2016 season. He signed a minor league deal with the Dodgers in 2017 and then a 2yr ML contract with $1.6M, total. But he was done. He had only 30 ABs as a Dodger. So, he didn't play his entire career as a Phillie, but all of his meaningful time was as a Phillie.

His 1534 career RBI place him 16th on the All-Time list. He scored 1300 runs, on the nose (36th). His 2187 career hits is 54th most, and 15 ahead of the next player on the list, Inaugural Class Inductee Mark McGwire.

In his rookie season, he hit 48 HRs while batting .313 and drove in 128 to take ROY honors.

During his career he went to 8 ASGs, and won 3 MVPs between 2004 and 2007. In his 2006 MVP season he posted career highs in hits (204) doubles (37), HR (65), RBI (179), R (137), and walks (81). His slash line of 324/409/700 contained a career high OBP and career high slg%. The npa OPS+ for this season was another career high (194).

For his career he slashed 292/366/589 which made for a nap OPS+ of 155.

Mitchell missed the entire 2015 season due to injury. At age 35, in his final season with the club, a no longer dominant Mitchell contributed as a bench player to the Phillies WS winning effort. Fellow HOF Mel Ott was also on this club.

By the time 2016 rolled around, Mitchell was just hanging on. Still, he batted .263 in the post season, but his power was gone, and he hit no HRs. In 2 previous post seasons, he had hit 14 HRs in 100 ABs.

Though not a First Ballotter, Mitchell gets in on the First Ballot Standard.

ADD: Mitchell hit 354 HRs as a SS, the most in league history. In 2006, all of his HRs and RBI were as a SS. They are both single season SS records. His career slg% of .587 and OPS of .957 at SS are also records for the position.

Black Ink: 37 (11)
Gray Ink: 150 (46)
HOFm: 245.5 (38)
HOFs: 63 (23)

Gorilla Composite: 5.3 (1.5)

02-17-2013, 03:53 PM	#29
VanillaGorilla All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 1,371	Class of 2021 (1949): Shields, Mullane, Mitchell As I posted on the main board, the expansion Dallas Burn won the WS in their first two seasons as both expansion squads blew up the economic status quo of the league and became instant powerhouses when the teams did not protect their big contract players in their playing primes. Using league evolution is a new aspect of OOTP for me. Before this past (2020) season, a rule change was implemented that made the minimum DL stay 19 days. I didn't think this was significant enough to note, by itself. Going into the 2011 season, the season has been shortened to 158 games. This, obviously, has an impact on the HOF numbers being tabulated. This will have no effect on the Ink categories, but this does impact the the HOFm point accumulation, and to a very slight degree, the HOFs accumulation. This also makes it much more significant when a single season total record is broken, in the future. ---------------------------- James Shields was drafted by the Rangers with the 7th overall pick in the 1974 draft. He retired following the 1990 season with a career record of 218-165 and an OOTP ERA of 3.38 (npa ERA+ 128). He struck out 2780 (28th) batters in 3519 1/3 IP while walking 880. He pitched 153 Complete Games (5th) in his career. 35 of those were shutouts (4th). 4 times he won 20 games. For some reason, he was only named to 1 All Star team. That year was 1976. For that season he won 23 games and struck out 340 and posted a npa ERA+ of 198. But he didn't win the Cy Young Award, that season. He did win the CYA in 1984 in a campaign that saw him post a record of 23-6 and a 3.38 OOTP ERA as a member of the Yankees. East coast bias??? His npa ERA+ that season was a good, but not a typical CYA winning, figure of 128. He was not named to the All-Star team for this season. In 1977 he was 28-9 in the regular season as he led the Rangers to a WS win. He struck out 272 batters that year while walking only 35. He is the first player to be inducted into the HOF from that Rangers team. In that 1977 post season, Shields was 3-0 in 4 starts. He struck out 34 men in 30 2/3 IP and walked only 1 batter the entire post season. In 1979 he started, what stands as the league record, 42 games. His 218 wins places him 19th on the All-Time list. Shields enters on the Veteran Standard. Black Ink: 12 Gray Ink: 159 HOFm: 109.4 HOFs: 43 Gorilla Composite: 2.6 -------------------------------- Tony Mullane is a player I expect to be inducted into the RL HOF, eventually. Based on the numbers used for this HOF (the new adjusted ones, which raises the standard whenever I commented on the likes of RL players being RL Hall-worthy in the previous thread) Mullane should be inducted. Here, there is no need for an argument. Mullane did not get in on his first ballot screening, but were this to be his first year of eligibility, he would have been in on that standard, as all 4 of his numbers are above the current Hall averages. He enters with the highest GC of any pitcher to be inducted, thus far. Mullane was the first player chosen in the 1975 draft. Taken by the Cardinals, he played with them from 1976-1990. He made stops in San Diego, Baltimore, and Texas before retiring in 1995. Mullane won 287 games in his career, third most, whil being tagged with 189 losses which gives him a career win% of .6029. His career OOTP ERA of 3.27 makes for a npa ERA+ of 127. His 3533 strikeouts are 7th most, All-Time. He threw 143 CGs (9th) and 34 shutouts (5th) in his career. He ranks 5th on the All-Time WAR list. No eligible player ahead of him is not already in the HOF. In his 1976 debut season, he won ROY honors as he made the Cardinal scouts look good with their recommendation to select Mullane. He went 25-8, OOTP ERA 2.51 (npa ERA+ 149) as he struck out 365 batters in 330 IP while walking only 73. Mullane appeared as an All Star 6 times and he won 2 CYAs. One was in his rookie 1976 season, the other was in 1980 when he posted career bests in wins, ERA, and ERA+ (26-5, 2.26, 179). He also racked up a career best 6 shutouts in 1980. He brought the WS trophy to St Louis in 1982 and in 1987. Ralph Branca was on the 1987 winning team. No player, other than Mullane, has been inducted into the HOF, yet. Black Ink: 65 (28) Gray Ink: 250 (202) HOFm: 204.5 (169) HOFs: 54 (51) Gorilla Composite: 5.1 (3.7) ------------------------------------ Kevin Mitchell became eligible the same year as Mel Ott. The Selection comittee opted to enter Ott on the first ballot, but bowing to pressure from PETA, the ASPCA, and cat lovers everywhere, they made Mitchell wait. But they could not keep him out of the Hall, as he was a dominant force for years. As Bobby Murcer in the previous league played his way into the HOF as a SS while in RL he was an OFer, Mitchell fit this same billing. Mitchell Played 600 games as an OFer, but he played 1300 games in the IF, with almost 100 games logged at SS. His career EFF of 1.014 a SS is certainly adequate, and if you get a guy that can play adequate SS while smacking 592 career HRs (7th), that's a pretty good deal. Taken as the 5th player in the 2001 draft by the Phillies, Mitchell remained in Philadelphia through the 2016 season. He signed a minor league deal with the Dodgers in 2017 and then a 2yr ML contract with $1.6M, total. But he was done. He had only 30 ABs as a Dodger. So, he didn't play his entire career as a Phillie, but all of his meaningful time was as a Phillie. His 1534 career RBI place him 16th on the All-Time list. He scored 1300 runs, on the nose (36th). His 2187 career hits is 54th most, and 15 ahead of the next player on the list, Inaugural Class Inductee Mark McGwire. In his rookie season, he hit 48 HRs while batting .313 and drove in 128 to take ROY honors. During his career he went to 8 ASGs, and won 3 MVPs between 2004 and 2007. In his 2006 MVP season he posted career highs in hits (204) doubles (37), HR (65), RBI (179), R (137), and walks (81). His slash line of 324/409/700 contained a career high OBP and career high slg%. The npa OPS+ for this season was another career high (194). For his career he slashed 292/366/589 which made for a nap OPS+ of 155. Mitchell missed the entire 2015 season due to injury. At age 35, in his final season with the club, a no longer dominant Mitchell contributed as a bench player to the Phillies WS winning effort. Fellow HOF Mel Ott was also on this club. By the time 2016 rolled around, Mitchell was just hanging on. Still, he batted .263 in the post season, but his power was gone, and he hit no HRs. In 2 previous post seasons, he had hit 14 HRs in 100 ABs. Though not a First Ballotter, Mitchell gets in on the First Ballot Standard. ADD: Mitchell hit 354 HRs as a SS, the most in league history. In 2006, all of his HRs and RBI were as a SS. They are both single season SS records. His career slg% of .587 and OPS of .957 at SS are also records for the position. Black Ink: 37 (11) Gray Ink: 150 (46) HOFm: 245.5 (38) HOFs: 63 (23) Gorilla Composite: 5.3 (1.5) Last edited by VanillaGorilla; 02-17-2013 at 09:00 PM.