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VanillaGorilla · 02-20-2013, 05:37 AM

In the previous HOF, the early entries had very had high scores and set the bar very high, early on. This resulted in the Standards being so high, that others didn't meet them and the Selection Committee using the Leader Boards, already, at this same class time. That has yet to happen here, but this is the last class that doesn't have a 5 year retirement wait. So, there will be no new eligible players entering the pool for 5 years. There are also some players previously eligible that now are not because they haven't been retired for 5 years. They will become eligible, again, when they have been retired for 5 years.

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Kung Fu Panda is one of my newest favorite players IRL, and in OOTP. Heck, any player that enters his second HOF becomes an OOTP favorite. Sandoval is the 15th player to do that.

Pablo Sandoval was taken with the 5th overall pick in the 198 draft by the Giants. In what was a true surprise to me, he did not sign with his RL team. He opted to go back to the draft pool, and in 1999 the Red Sox took him with the 19th overall pick.

In his rookie season he won his first of 2 GGs at 1B. He did play 966 games at 3B in his career, but he played almost 1200 at 1B.

He broke into the league by cracking 236 (15th) base hits. Only 10 players have hit more, in a season. Of those hits, 49 were doubles and 37 were HRs. A slash line of 350/395/610 was good for a npa OPS+ of 156 and a Rookie of the Year trophy.

After the 2007 season, he signed a 5 yr $66M deal with the Indians. On a team that also had future HOFer Joey Votto, Sandoval paid immediate dividends and helped Cleveland hoist the WS trophy.

In his first 8 seasons, Sandoval hit at least 33 HRs a year. He hit 40 or more 4 times, including 3 straight 40+ HR seasons in 2004-2006.

For his career he collected 2670 hits (14th), 478 HRs (25th), and 1803 RBI (5th). His 565 career doubles ranks 11th. He is tied with his WS/HOF teammate Votto on the all-time doubles list.

His career line of 297/336/530 gives him a npa OPS+ of 129.

Sandoval appeared in 6 ASGs and won the MVP on 2002 when he hit 56 doubles (career high), 41 HRs and batted .330, which was good enough for him to garner the batting crown, also.

Sandoval retired following the 2016 season.

Kung Fu Panda enters on the basis of his Ink numbers and his HOFm number being above the Hall average.

Black Ink: 29
Gray Ink: 159
HOFm: 199.5
HOFs: 46

Gorilla Composite: 4.4

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Elmer Flick becomes the 8th RL HOFer to join this shrine of immortals.

Drafted by the Cubs second overall in the 1982 draft, Flick won 2 MVPs and a WS for the Cubs. I really don't need to type anymore than that.....

In the 8 seasons from 1984 through 1991, Flick hit .300 every season. When we think of MVPs in the modern era, we usually think sluggers, but Flick's highest HR total came in 1984, a season in which he didn't win the MVP, when he hit 27.

In 1989, his second MVP season, he hit 22 HRs, but he only played 115 games, as he led the Cubs to WS glory. But, he had enough PAs to win the batting title by stroking a .338. He also was tops in slg% (.562) and OPS (.976, npa OPS+ a career high 188). His 5.6 WAR figure was also the league best (lots of stars struck by the injury bug).

In 1991 he joined a young future HOFer, Gary Sheffield, and Alex Serrano, a future HOFer in his Swan Song season, and celebrated as a World Champion with the Tigers, having joined them as a Free Agent in the previous off-season.

For his career, which ended following the 1997 season, Flick rapped 2295 hits. Of those 214 were HRs. He also had 96 triples in his career (8th) and stole 684 bases (9th). He scored 1305 runs (41st, 5 ahead of 42nd place holders, and HOFers, Ed Konetchy and Kevin Mitchell).

Flick was an AS 7 times, and won 4 GGs in RF as he slashed 309/379/474 for a career npa OPS+ of 138. Flick enters by virtue of his Black and Gray Ink scores being above the Hall average.

Black Ink: 24 (23)
Gray Ink: 160 (179)
HOFm: 148 (64)
HOFs: 49 (31)

Gorilla Composite: 3.9 (3.1)

02-20-2013, 05:37 AM	#34
VanillaGorilla All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 1,371	Class of 2025 (1953), Hitters: Sandoval, Flick In the previous HOF, the early entries had very had high scores and set the bar very high, early on. This resulted in the Standards being so high, that others didn't meet them and the Selection Committee using the Leader Boards, already, at this same class time. That has yet to happen here, but this is the last class that doesn't have a 5 year retirement wait. So, there will be no new eligible players entering the pool for 5 years. There are also some players previously eligible that now are not because they haven't been retired for 5 years. They will become eligible, again, when they have been retired for 5 years. -------------------------- Kung Fu Panda is one of my newest favorite players IRL, and in OOTP. Heck, any player that enters his second HOF becomes an OOTP favorite. Sandoval is the 15th player to do that. Pablo Sandoval was taken with the 5th overall pick in the 198 draft by the Giants. In what was a true surprise to me, he did not sign with his RL team. He opted to go back to the draft pool, and in 1999 the Red Sox took him with the 19th overall pick. In his rookie season he won his first of 2 GGs at 1B. He did play 966 games at 3B in his career, but he played almost 1200 at 1B. He broke into the league by cracking 236 (15th) base hits. Only 10 players have hit more, in a season. Of those hits, 49 were doubles and 37 were HRs. A slash line of 350/395/610 was good for a npa OPS+ of 156 and a Rookie of the Year trophy. After the 2007 season, he signed a 5 yr $66M deal with the Indians. On a team that also had future HOFer Joey Votto, Sandoval paid immediate dividends and helped Cleveland hoist the WS trophy. In his first 8 seasons, Sandoval hit at least 33 HRs a year. He hit 40 or more 4 times, including 3 straight 40+ HR seasons in 2004-2006. For his career he collected 2670 hits (14th), 478 HRs (25th), and 1803 RBI (5th). His 565 career doubles ranks 11th. He is tied with his WS/HOF teammate Votto on the all-time doubles list. His career line of 297/336/530 gives him a npa OPS+ of 129. Sandoval appeared in 6 ASGs and won the MVP on 2002 when he hit 56 doubles (career high), 41 HRs and batted .330, which was good enough for him to garner the batting crown, also. Sandoval retired following the 2016 season. Kung Fu Panda enters on the basis of his Ink numbers and his HOFm number being above the Hall average. Black Ink: 29 Gray Ink: 159 HOFm: 199.5 HOFs: 46 Gorilla Composite: 4.4 ---------------------------- Elmer Flick becomes the 8th RL HOFer to join this shrine of immortals. Drafted by the Cubs second overall in the 1982 draft, Flick won 2 MVPs and a WS for the Cubs. I really don't need to type anymore than that..... In the 8 seasons from 1984 through 1991, Flick hit .300 every season. When we think of MVPs in the modern era, we usually think sluggers, but Flick's highest HR total came in 1984, a season in which he didn't win the MVP, when he hit 27. In 1989, his second MVP season, he hit 22 HRs, but he only played 115 games, as he led the Cubs to WS glory. But, he had enough PAs to win the batting title by stroking a .338. He also was tops in slg% (.562) and OPS (.976, npa OPS+ a career high 188). His 5.6 WAR figure was also the league best (lots of stars struck by the injury bug). In 1991 he joined a young future HOFer, Gary Sheffield, and Alex Serrano, a future HOFer in his Swan Song season, and celebrated as a World Champion with the Tigers, having joined them as a Free Agent in the previous off-season. For his career, which ended following the 1997 season, Flick rapped 2295 hits. Of those 214 were HRs. He also had 96 triples in his career (8th) and stole 684 bases (9th). He scored 1305 runs (41st, 5 ahead of 42nd place holders, and HOFers, Ed Konetchy and Kevin Mitchell). Flick was an AS 7 times, and won 4 GGs in RF as he slashed 309/379/474 for a career npa OPS+ of 138. Flick enters by virtue of his Black and Gray Ink scores being above the Hall average. Black Ink: 24 (23) Gray Ink: 160 (179) HOFm: 148 (64) HOFs: 49 (31) Gorilla Composite: 3.9 (3.1)