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Probert24 · 03-08-2013, 05:41 PM

Hi Sprague - yep - I was thrilled when you started this thread and have followed it for quite a while before joining the fray. I've long been a critic of how hockey sims - whether the old-fashioned table-top board games or PC sims - have NOT accurately represented the kind of fighting and penalty distribution that was more common 30-40 years ago. I've never understood WHY - whether was just a philosophical thing (preference for more sanitized European style) - or if it was just too difficult to program/design - whatever the reason, it's historically been a GLARING omission from virtually every sim produced, save one currently on the market (a competitor - won't mention names - but they've taken some BIG strides in their most recent release to get it right) -- -- and as I recall there was also at least a step in the right direction way back in the day in the old APBA hockey (the DOS game actually had multiple-player fights break out now and then) But still...

I had table-top games that I ended up making a PLETHORA of additional charts (upon charts upon charts - lol) to add in line brawls, bench clears, end-of-period melees ... I grew up on the rock-em, sock-em brand that was the NHL in the 70s - and went to minor league games for the farm team of the Broad Street Bullies starting in 1971 'til the team moved out of town in the mid-to-late '70s - so I've LONG been a diehard fan of the brawling style of play that was common in those days.

I've never liked that the sims really have never gotten it right. So I'm hopeful that Jeff, Sebastian, and the other guys on the team - like you said - will happen by and see this and get some good ideas about how to make this IMPORTANT part of the way the game was played actually happen! Believe me, I'd love to see it accurately replicated!!

03-08-2013, 05:41 PM	#87
Probert24 Minors (Single A) Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Chicago Posts: 59	Hi Sprague - yep - I was thrilled when you started this thread and have followed it for quite a while before joining the fray. I've long been a critic of how hockey sims - whether the old-fashioned table-top board games or PC sims - have NOT accurately represented the kind of fighting and penalty distribution that was more common 30-40 years ago. I've never understood WHY - whether was just a philosophical thing (preference for more sanitized European style) - or if it was just too difficult to program/design - whatever the reason, it's historically been a GLARING omission from virtually every sim produced, save one currently on the market (a competitor - won't mention names - but they've taken some BIG strides in their most recent release to get it right) -- -- and as I recall there was also at least a step in the right direction way back in the day in the old APBA hockey (the DOS game actually had multiple-player fights break out now and then) But still... I had table-top games that I ended up making a PLETHORA of additional charts (upon charts upon charts - lol) to add in line brawls, bench clears, end-of-period melees ... I grew up on the rock-em, sock-em brand that was the NHL in the 70s - and went to minor league games for the farm team of the Broad Street Bullies starting in 1971 'til the team moved out of town in the mid-to-late '70s - so I've LONG been a diehard fan of the brawling style of play that was common in those days. I've never liked that the sims really have never gotten it right. So I'm hopeful that Jeff, Sebastian, and the other guys on the team - like you said - will happen by and see this and get some good ideas about how to make this IMPORTANT part of the way the game was played actually happen! Believe me, I'd love to see it accurately replicated!! Last edited by Probert24; 03-08-2013 at 05:47 PM.