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Old 11-07-2014, 10:50 AM   #1127
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Originally Posted by panelpatter View Post
Imagine what he might have done, had not the nation needed his great talents to stave off the German threat!

(It also answers a question I was wondering--if you tracked League stats together, or considered only D1 stats for all-time rankings. Looks like you group the various divisions together, but don't count non-league games.)
Yeah, Lloyd, like Bobby Arscott before him, came back with a strong 1919 season but then tailed off quickly due to age. They both would have been in their mid thirties during the war, but both were such great hitters that it is easy to imagine they would have both gotten way over 2,000 career hits, which given the shorter Baseball League seasons is more akin to 3,000 hits.

As for record keeping, I am tallying records for the the League overall as well as by division*. Since Josh Lloyd split his playing time between D1 and D2 he doesn't show up on a ton of leaderboards in either, but for D1 he is 7th in on base, 16th in batting average, 29th in slugging and 12th in RC/27. He doesn't show up in any D2 leaderboards because he doesn't have the requisite 3,000 plate appearance minimum, but if he did his overall batting average of .385 would be #1 by a long shot. (Current Clapton Orient star Aaron MacAlpine is #1 in D2 overall with .358. Chesterfield Town star Joe Michel owns the highest D2 batting average among retired players with .356.)

Because the League didn't officially track the advanced metrics in 1924, and indeed no one even knew about or imagined them, they don't show up in news accounts at the time, but overall, Lloyd is 5th all-time in the League in career VORP with 653.3; 7th in on base with .464; 13th in RC/27 with 8.11; and 23rd in slugging with .482.

Joshua Lloyd was definitely good at batting.




* - I also keep stats for non-League, as if anyone cared, but Lloyd doesn't show up in the leaderboards for any of them. It is kind of interesting to go through them and see what good players had "lost careers", so to speak, by toiling their entire time down there.
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