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Old 03-02-2015, 07:39 PM   #24695
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Originally Posted by Merkle923 View Post
Pegasus, my relationship to Topps is historical consultant and a kind of unofficial liaison between them and the baseball history/baseball photography communities. I've spent a long time convincing them to take a blase attitude towards what they view as their implicit copyright on all their images, and I've generally be successful. They've come around to the view that the posting of the watermarked images serves as advertising for their product, especially their eBay business.

So anything with a watermark is fair game. The other stuff gets dicey. It's basically a question of volume and use. If they're "out" as your non-watermarked images from '06 would be, they could make a stink but won't. Posting of stuff obtained via Topps Vault or scrubbed of the watermark is the issue. I've talked them back from zero tolerance to "don't over do it." Their real problems are with the posting of unwatermarked Topps images of players whose photos could make money for some Internet rando who comes here and picks off the Koufax you posted, or the unwatermarked images posted in the design of actual Topps cards.

There's no hard and fast rule. The best advice is, less is better.

Speaking of which, here is a TV of Jay Kleven, who spent about two weeks as a backup catcher for the '76 Mets and appears in today's Vault upload:
Thanks for taking the time to explain. I play a different game than the host site sells (so I won't mention it) and I create(d) photo packs for that game and while searching the internet I found the EBay site almost ten years ago. I actually don't use the whole photo. I usually crop the photo to a 180x270 head shot. I have posted these photo packs for free for users of that game. In the process I met many of the fine gentlemen on this site and we started trading lists and posting pics for historical value and as part of our general interest in baseball history.I have never sold any photos nor will I ever and I have always kept the sharing to those that have a use for the pics for their gaming or historical value. And by the time I send a photo is has been cropped to a 180 x 270 which doesn't have any value to anyone.

I appreciate Topps position and will respect their wishes but it seems to me that their position is people can use the photos as long as they keep it low key and aren't using it for profit. Correct me if I am wrong.

An example of what a pic that I have gotten a hold of and cropped is the Jackie Brown that I have loaded off of a recent post in this thread and that I have attached.

The real question I would like answered is that apparently there is a website where this images are posted? Is there a link to this site where I could discretely view the photos and quietly use them?

Rick
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