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Old 04-20-2015, 12:57 AM   #73
Lukas Berger
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Originally Posted by I♥Pepper View Post
So your saying the a.i. is "pretty darn good" and " it would require too much processing power and an impossible amount of coding" in the same argument? Which is it? Is it good or is it impossible to code? Baseball isn't so much more complicated than chess that it's "impossible to code". In fact, the game of baseball itself is simple. There are in fact limited scenarios.
Complications are introduced when the a.i is asked to manage the roster. Not just in game, but throughout a season. Also, not just for one team, but many teams, in many leagues. As a result, there are numerous posts in these forums pointing out weaknesses in the a.i.'s substitution patterens and roster management quirks, like trading oddities. Are these difficult to code? Yes. Is it impossible? No. If it was impossible, OOTP wouldn't exist in its current form. One thing is for sure with absolute certainty, however. Continuing with the attitude of "it's just too hard to code" will result in no further improvements and the eventual decline and death of this game. Which, in my opinion, has already begun.
Baseball is exponentially more complicated than chess once all those roster rules etc. you casually dismiss are taken into account, which they have to be in order to build a superior ai.

The ai now is good, very good, but it can't regularly overcome an intelligent, experienced human intent on "winning" the game and gaming the system. No ai can. That's sort of ai is what's literally impossible to code.

But a good, challenging, though not perfect ai? That's not impossible, it's already part of the game. And it gets better every year because improving it is always a priority for Markus. To help with that, posting any ai oddities you see in the bug report thread is encouraged, it's a good thing. No one should be discouraging others from doing that.

Beyond that, no one's saying that it's too hard to improve or fix the ai, just that it'll never be perfect.

Last edited by Lukas Berger; 04-20-2015 at 01:11 AM.
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