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Old 09-30-2015, 05:00 PM   #26259
FatJack
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Originally Posted by Merkle923 View Post
My friend's other research - and he's into this enough that he's determined this image was taken between July 24 and July 27, 1969 - identifies everybody in this first of two team photos for the Seattle Pilots.

Remarkably, two of the handful of Pilots for whom no color posed shot is known, are in this shot. Garry Roggenburk - who quit baseball within hours or days of this picture being taken - is in the back row, third from the left, in uniform 39 (the guy at the far left of the back row is Steve Whitaker, who has nothing but mediocre color images of himself in a Seattle uniform).

And at the far left of the middle row is Gordon Lund, who spent a month as a Pilots' utilityman.

Lord knows where an original higher-quality copy of this image might be found but I'm looking.

(For the record, the player/coaches ID's are, Front Row: Plaza, Crosetti, Schultz, Maglie, O'Brien, Donaldson, Harper. Middle Row: Lund, Gil, Bouton, Oyler, Pattin, Talbot, Segui, Locker, Simpson, Gelnar, Ranew, Davis, Hovley, Clark. Back Row: Whitaker, Barber, Roggenburk, Goossen, Brabender, Pagliaroni, Mincher, O'Donoghue, McNertney).
The color image I have is slightly larger than that. Full sized Black and White copies are readily available, though I can't speak to how far removed they may be from "original". And here is Mr. Roggenburk isolated from the B&W.


Gordy Lund at least has one of the team issued B&Ws in circulation. My guess is Garry wasn't around long enough to get one of those.

Interestingly, as I pointed out on Baseball-Birthdays, is that the color shot is NOT the same as the B&W. Same shoot, yes; same picture, no. The color image is actually one of the photog's outtakes as you can see Eddie O'Brien facing off to the side, as though telling someone to pipe down (in the B&W, he faces forward). The expressions for some of the others is different as well (notice Gus Gil's arms at his side in color and clasped in front of him in B&W).

PS--If anyone cares, the batboy (in the very front) is Stan Price.
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