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Originally Posted by Le Grande Orange
That's true for most games, I think. Only a relatively small percentage of a game's users ever go online to the game's forum
I'll say it again: one-third of the users do other things than the MLB default league. One out of three. That's a sizable proportion of users.
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My post was in response to this from dave1927
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Originally Posted by dave1927p
At the same time, how many people tweak the rules of modern mlb? I imagine that number is quite high. So I would expect there's multiple ways to dissect those figures.
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and trying to understand what point he was trying to make about players changing rules. It has nothing to do with how many go online to this forum other than to say those that do are more likely to play fictional games (if we believe the post Habfan linked) and those that don't are more likely to "manages his favorite team and that's it" to quote Markus. So is he basing his theory that a "quite high" number of players tweak rules on what he reads here? If not than what does he base it on?
Seems he's saying that by tweaking the rules of modern day MLB it somehow makes the game less "real world" and makes it some kind of partial fictional league? I really didn't understand the point of the post at all so asked the question what makes him think a "quite high" number of users change the rules when using MLB setups? And even if they do, again what is the point? Still doesn't affect the 65% number Markus posted as those players are still in the "real world" user pool.
MLB is still the dominant driving force that sells the game and I'll stand by that statement. But if you only read these forums you might come away with a different point of view. Look at the post Habfan linked and it shows ~55% playing fictional and as Markus told us that's not true when it comes to all users. That's a hell of a difference!
There have been many over the years that have threatened to never buy the game again if their feature didn't make it into OOTP. No women? Then I'll take my money and go home! No relegation? I'm being ignored I'm never buying again! etc. etc.
Nowhere have I said 1/4 of users, fictional players, should be ignored. Nowhere have I said 1/3 of users, historical and fictional players, should be ignored. And thankfully with Markus at the helm they are not being left out. But can we please quit playing the "fictional players are being ignored even though they are in the majority of users" game? When it's simply not true.
I'm certainly not, and I don't think anyone else is, saying fictional\historical play should be ignored. But just maybe we can have a little more understanding about why Markus makes the decisions he does about what is high on the to do list and what is not.
Now IF Markus was forced to make an either or decision, MLB or fictional, than I think it's obvious what that choice would be. 1/3 may be a sizable number but 2/3 dwarfs it and there would only be an MLB game. Lets be glad that's not the case and we can all have the game we want within the limitations of coding time, and how many users might use any feature that is added.